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re: AF vs MAGA
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Thank you for responding.
To summarize:
(1.) "Extremist religious types" = "kooky Catholics (moderate and leftist)?
Couldn't we just distill this down to pro-Abortion, pro-LGBT, pro-Commie, anti-America positions? Sounds familiar.
(2.) "Effin things up" = "anti-Leftism" (aka, pro-Conservative social issues, America-First policies?)
(3.) "Neocon" = "interventionist", "world-police" policies? (So iow, using US military and aid to act on behalf of non-American interests. Any coincidental global actors and agendas at play?)
To summarize:
(1.) "Extremist religious types" = "kooky Catholics (moderate and leftist)?
Couldn't we just distill this down to pro-Abortion, pro-LGBT, pro-Commie, anti-America positions? Sounds familiar.
(2.) "Effin things up" = "anti-Leftism" (aka, pro-Conservative social issues, America-First policies?)
(3.) "Neocon" = "interventionist", "world-police" policies? (So iow, using US military and aid to act on behalf of non-American interests. Any coincidental global actors and agendas at play?)
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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crazies like her hijacked it from the Rand Pauls, the OG Tea Party was dead
"Crazies" like who? Did I miss the actor ("her") you're referring to?
I was involved in the TP.
The TP movement was hijacked and destroyed from within and without.
It happened fairly quickly as it gain Big Mo. But not by who you believe or claim was the facilitator(s) (like "whacky religious types") ; The TP was hijacked by the usual orchestrator of ops, reinforced by Mockingbird Inc, sold as the cover story to America to help blackwash and bury the movement.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:09 am to EphesianArmor
quote:
(1.) "Extremist religious types" = "kooky Catholics
No. The extremist Christians come from almost all denominations (except those specifically leftist like Unitarians). In fact, many that I've met in my life were from non-denominational churches.
quote:
(2.) "Effin things up" = "anti-Leftism" (
The comment was fricking up the anti-leftism movement.
When the neocons and social conservatives feel they have power, they promote unpalatable policies for moderates and permit the left to gain power again. Taking those Ls is what I was referencing with "fricking it up"
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:10 am to EphesianArmor
quote:
"Crazies" like who? Did I miss the actor ("her") you're referring to?
Michelle Bachmann, my dude.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:24 am to olemc999
Whichever actually has the balls too:
End H1B
Term Limits
Voting Reform
Social Security Graceful Shutdown
Update American Infrastructure
Completely end Immigration for at least a decade.
End H1B
Term Limits
Voting Reform
Social Security Graceful Shutdown
Update American Infrastructure
Completely end Immigration for at least a decade.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:24 am to dnm3305
(AF vs MAGA)
AMERICA FIRST:
1) America ONLY. NOT Israel. Ukraine. Or time and resources wasted in any number of foreign nations receiving unaccountable "aid" and attention -- be it financial or military OR in the form of NGOs
2) US Citizens FIRST; NOT Tech Bros / Prioritizing Data Centers First
3) Reestablishing US Business FIRST (esp the Mom & Pop and small-medium operations that were destroyed during the Covid shutdown) ; NOT Tariffs First
4) Prosecuting Justice over Protecting Cronies and PDFs
5) Prosecuting Traitors and co-opt-ers of US Sovereignty, USCON Rights and Illegal Human Trafficking
6) Promotion of personal and individual Constition-protected 1A, 2A AND 7) 4A (Data Centers violate this amendment)
8) Support the immediate jettisoning ALL UN, WEF and WHO "partnerships" that supersede the US Constitution and authority
9) Immediate cessation of poisoning our air, water, bodies and collective minds from ALL "climate change", "the Science", and propaganda ops
10) Stop ALL foreign intervention (unless the US people are threatened)
MAGA
(Is a misnomer; There is no real agenda other than for International/Global/Corporate interests. It should be called, 'The Royal Trojan-Horse / Here's-a-Wishbone-and-Scraps Party')
quote:
What’s the difference?
Can you name 5 distinct details that divide these two, because I assume they are the same thing?
AMERICA FIRST:
1) America ONLY. NOT Israel. Ukraine. Or time and resources wasted in any number of foreign nations receiving unaccountable "aid" and attention -- be it financial or military OR in the form of NGOs
2) US Citizens FIRST; NOT Tech Bros / Prioritizing Data Centers First
3) Reestablishing US Business FIRST (esp the Mom & Pop and small-medium operations that were destroyed during the Covid shutdown) ; NOT Tariffs First
4) Prosecuting Justice over Protecting Cronies and PDFs
5) Prosecuting Traitors and co-opt-ers of US Sovereignty, USCON Rights and Illegal Human Trafficking
6) Promotion of personal and individual Constition-protected 1A, 2A AND 7) 4A (Data Centers violate this amendment)
8) Support the immediate jettisoning ALL UN, WEF and WHO "partnerships" that supersede the US Constitution and authority
9) Immediate cessation of poisoning our air, water, bodies and collective minds from ALL "climate change", "the Science", and propaganda ops
10) Stop ALL foreign intervention (unless the US people are threatened)
MAGA
(Is a misnomer; There is no real agenda other than for International/Global/Corporate interests. It should be called, 'The Royal Trojan-Horse / Here's-a-Wishbone-and-Scraps Party')
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Michelle Bachmann, my dude.
Muh man...
Michelle Bachmann was the easiest and most obvious scapegoat op -- come on, man. If ANYONE was targeted for a smear campaign back then, Bachmann was it. The LAST thing the Globalist-Kenyan's cabal wanted or needed was a Christian-led resurgence movement to take back America. So they nipped it in the bud ASAP.
The pro-America FIRST Tea Party was the original best and last opportunity we (who are God-fearing, conservative, sovereign-first had to right this ship.)
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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When the neocons and social conservatives feel they have power, they promote unpalatable policies for moderates...
So your position and understanding (from your unique perspective) is that the spectrum of GOP runs from NEOCON -----> "SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES"?
In brief, the Neocons' prime directive and agenda is essentially about an Internationalism and Global One World Goobermint
"Social Conservatives" agenda is about LIFE, LIBERTY,and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS -- unimpeded by Globalist-Statist directives and agendas
Frankly, YOUR supposed political demographic -- so-called "Moderates" -- are the ones (indirectly) responsible for runaway immorality, abortion on demand, NOT joining conservatives in enforcing laws, supporting the "tolerance" mantra.
In short, "Moderates" are the Moral Relativists on the American fence who never-ever commit to the Right Thing. You guys Utopian dreamers who believe "all mankind is good."
You "Moderates" guys are non-committal on ALL things that mattered; Your sympathy (and oft time alliance) for and with Leftists AND Globalists contributed mightily torching of America.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:51 am to EphesianArmor
quote:
is that the spectrum of GOP runs from NEOCON -----> "SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES"?
No.
Those are 2 different groups (with a LOT of overlap) among the "conservative" population of America.
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the Neocons' prime directive and agenda is essentially about an Internationalism and Global One World Goobermint
That is also not what I said
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Frankly, YOUR supposed political demographic -- so-called "Moderates"
I don't think many who actually understand my politics would describe me as a moderate.
You could describe my personality in discussing politics as moderate, as it stays in the middle centered around facts and logic, surrounded by emotional-based hyper-partisan takes. But I don't think that's how you were using it.
The moderates I'm describing are people other than me.
quote:
In short, "Moderates" are the Moral Relativists on the American fence who never-ever commit to the Right Thing.
If you want to engage in that emotional hyper-partisan analysis, you could describe them this way.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:52 am to el Gaucho
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Every conservative movement in the last 50 years is astroturf created by the neocons to distract us from what the real problem is in America
Exactly.
quote:
If you look at all the great western civilizations they have a common characteristic and once you lose that it’s over
If the answer is "Christianity" and Biblical values, abso-lutely.
quote:
We haven’t had a real president since Richard Nixon
That Nixon was despised so much since the '50s by the Mockingbird Media and Commie Shadow overlords (enough to be set-up and "impeached" over nonsense ) I'd have to concur to a great degree.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:57 am to riccoar
“Globalist” has always been a loaded term, often referring to doing business Jewish financiers…
Most, if not all, of our major corporations are global in their reach.
BTW, Elon is a “globalist”.
Most, if not all, of our major corporations are global in their reach.
BTW, Elon is a “globalist”.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
I have obviously taken a license to add some nuance to your positions / assertions / definitions.
It's hardly "hyper-partisan" to make the call that "Moderates = Moral Relativists" in many cases. It is literally referred to as "The Squishy Middle" for good reason.
FWIW, I don't give a hoot for the actors and cast-members Republican Party; It's also a captured stage and tool of the Globalist-Cabalists.
Fwiw, I appreciate your takes and candor -- even if I know you better than you know yourself ;-)
Then how again would you describe yourself politically?
You play it safe. Too safe. (maybe because this is the "you" of TD. OR as a result of waking on eggshells in the courtroom .)
Ever consider that you can't see the forest for the tree in your political womb of insularity? This is why you see everything out of the mainstream consensus as a "CT", and those who leave your political comfort zone and explore the beyond as "kooks" or "extremists". The WORLD my friend is run by psychopaths. THEY are the real "Extremists.
quote:
If you want to engage in that emotional hyper-partisan analysis, you could describe them this way.
It's hardly "hyper-partisan" to make the call that "Moderates = Moral Relativists" in many cases. It is literally referred to as "The Squishy Middle" for good reason.
FWIW, I don't give a hoot for the actors and cast-members Republican Party; It's also a captured stage and tool of the Globalist-Cabalists.
quote:
You could describe my personality in discussing politics as moderate, as it stays in the middle centered around facts and logic, surrounded by emotional-based hyper-partisan takes. But I don't think that's how you were using it.
Fwiw, I appreciate your takes and candor -- even if I know you better than you know yourself ;-)
quote:
The moderates I'm describing are people other than me.
Then how again would you describe yourself politically?
You play it safe. Too safe. (maybe because this is the "you" of TD. OR as a result of waking on eggshells in the courtroom .)
Ever consider that you can't see the forest for the tree in your political womb of insularity? This is why you see everything out of the mainstream consensus as a "CT", and those who leave your political comfort zone and explore the beyond as "kooks" or "extremists". The WORLD my friend is run by psychopaths. THEY are the real "Extremists.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:24 am to VOR
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“Globalist” has always been a loaded term, often referring to doing business Jewish financiers…
Maybe. (But does the shoe conspicuously fit in many cases?)
Moreover, "Globalists" do not generally consider themselves loyal to any Nation. Even the ones in which they reside. Why might that be? Why do they feel contempt and hate for Nations and their unique respective identity?
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BTW, Elon is a “globalist”.
100%.
How and why are MAGA Praetorians kiss this guy's globalist, pro-climate change, pro-vaxxing, luciferian-transhumanist arse? I don't get it.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:04 pm to biglego
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Is globalism just a euphemism for “frick western civilization”?
It’s a means to breaking established countries and bringing them under one control. Think the EU but more Globally. It’s what WEF was created for. To create a NWO. A One World Government
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:10 pm to olemc999
shapiro and the neo cons trying to steal tpusa, and the maga movement
u must bow to the jewish over lords
sincerely,
ted cruz
u must bow to the jewish over lords
sincerely,
ted cruz
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:38 pm to riccoar
quote:
It’s a means to breaking established countries and bringing them under one control. Think the EU but more Globally. It’s what WEF was created for. To create a NWO. A One World Government
Seems to mostly impact white countries. Probably bc white leftists don’t want to have their own countries.
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