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re: Adele winning Grammy's over Beyoncé? Racist.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:55 am to elposter
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:55 am to elposter
quote:Now post the list of the Best singers.... and let the riot begin!!
Number of Grammy's won by a female artist:
1. Alison Krauss - 27
2. Beyonce - 22
3. Aretha Franklin - 18
4. Alicia Keys - 15
4. Adele - 15
6. Ella Fitzgerald - 13
6. Leontyne Price - 13
6. Emmylou Harris - 13
9. Shirley Ceasar - 11
10 Chaka Khan - 10
The bolded are black singers (that's 7 of the top 10).
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:00 am to Ag Zwin
Award shows aren't necessarily based on what any normal person thinks. Certain things aren't going to be held in high esteem by the "Academies."
It's like science fiction or action movies trying to win the Academy Awards. They can hope for best editing, makeup, special effects, etc., but they'll never win Best Picture.
This is much more a snobbish thing that a racist thing. Eminem won 15 Grammys; I'm sure he won Best Album a few times.
Oh wait, no, he didn't. Best Rap Album a bit but not Best Album.
It's like science fiction or action movies trying to win the Academy Awards. They can hope for best editing, makeup, special effects, etc., but they'll never win Best Picture.
This is much more a snobbish thing that a racist thing. Eminem won 15 Grammys; I'm sure he won Best Album a few times.
Oh wait, no, he didn't. Best Rap Album a bit but not Best Album.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:07 am to The Spleen
quote:
I'm not saying the Grammy's are racist or prejudiced. But with those numbers you listed, I think it's a fair question when so few black artists have won album of the year
What criteria is used to determine the winner?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:11 am to The Spleen
quote:By my quick search, an African-American has won Best Album (started in 1959) 12 times, all starting in 1974.
Ok, now do the Best Album category. It's the most prestigious one given at the Grammy's, and the one the artists covet the most.
I'm not saying the Grammy's are racist or prejudiced. But with those numbers you listed, I think it's a fair question when so few black artists have won album of the year.
That's over 20% of the awards, and about 28% since 1974; that is well above their share of the population in the US. And since the UK is the other primary nation which produces Grammy winning music, it's even even higher.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:13 am to Pinecone Repair
And good grief, she lost to Adele! It's not like she was beat by Katy Perry. Adele is quite arguably the best singer of this generation.
They need to get over it. Adele included.
They need to get over it. Adele included.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:15 am to The Spleen
quote:
Ok, now do the Best Album category. It's the most prestigious one given at the Grammy's, and the one the artists covet the most
25% of them over the last 20 years. Is that far enough, or should I keep counting?
27% over the last 30 years
28% over the last 40 years
In 59 years, blacks have won 13 times, plus an additional 2 or 3 for groups that included black band members. And that doesn't include all of those who might be included as producers, engineers, mixers, etc.
Clearly, winning that award only 20~25% of the time is racist.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:17 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
By my quick search, an African-American has won Best Album (started in 1959) 12 times, all starting in 1974.
Yeah, I came to correct myself. Looks like what I read yesterday was completely wrong, and the Tweet has since been deleted.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:28 am to The Spleen
quote:It's all good.
Yeah, I came to correct myself. Looks like what I read yesterday was completely wrong, and the Tweet has since been deleted.
The article is terrible though. The author cites the winning percentage of the "white" Allison Krauss compared to Beyonce, but if you look at the categories, Krauss is winning most of her's in the less popular genres (bluegrass, folk) and Beyonce is often nominated in the most competitive, global categories.
That's like saying Mount Union is the best team in Ohio because they have more championships than anybody else, including OSU.
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