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Academy Sports (in Tallahassee) Fires Manager For Tackling Gun Thief

Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17047 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:33 am
What is going on with Florida?

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The manager of Tallahassee’s Academy Sports was fired Tuesday after tackling a suspect accused of stealing a handgun last week. The suspect also allegedly threatened to shoot people.

Dean Crouch, 32, was the store manager who stopped Jason White from leaving the Mahan Drive store with a .40-caliber pistol from the firearms counter on June 29.

“Academy has decided to, instead of treating him like the hero he is, they terminated his employment effective immediately because he put his hands on Mr. White,” Crouch's attorney Ryan Hobbs said.


The Tallahassee Democrat
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:35 am to
Shitty corporate policies
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:36 am to
this seems like a great lesson for the other employees: giving a shite gets you fired.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:36 am to
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stopped Jason White from leaving the Mahan Drive


Most box stores have a policy of NOT engaging a shoplifter and they terminate an employee that does. Not saying I agree with the policy but the thought process is an employee, bystander, or the employee engaging the shoplifter can get hurt in the altercation, resulting in claims much more expensive than the merchandise being stolen...

Lowes, Academy, Wal-Mart, Dicks, etc all have similar policies...
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:38 am to
I thought this country was getting back on track
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:38 am to
I see your point.

quote:

The suspect also allegedly threatened to shoot people.


I mean, who in their right mind would want to stop someone from hurting innocent people.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I mean, who in their right mind would want to stop someone from hurting innocent people.

Broward Co. sheriff
FBI
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20004 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:

I mean, who in their right mind would want to stop someone from hurting innocent people.


Lawyers
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17047 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Most box stores have a policy of NOT engaging a shoplifter and they terminate an employee that does. Not saying I agree with the policy but the thought process is an employee, bystander, or the employee engaging the shoplifter can get hurt in the altercation, resulting in claims much more expensive than the merchandise being stolen...

Lowes, Academy, Wal-Mart, Dicks, etc all have similar policies...


I understand that and it makes sense with a dude stealing a Snicker's bar.

It doesn't make sense when a dude is threatening to shoot people and then runs out of the store with a stolen gun.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:41 am to
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who in their right mind would want to stop someone from hurting innocent people


Like I said, I do not agree with the policy and I believe it actually encourages behavior that will tend to lead to bigger issues...

However, as a store manager, you would be expected to follow company policy, so I can see them firing the manager. I think it sucks and I think there are better loss prevention policies that could be put into place but I don't own Academy, so I do not have a say in what policies they adhere to.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36404 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:41 am to
Considering it happened in Tallahassee and not a place like Cali, this surprises me.

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White, according to court records, said he and his family were being threatened by an unknown person and he wanted the gun to “kill him." “He repeatedly said ‘I stole and I admit to it’ and ‘I will steal again when I get out of jail,’” officers wrote in their report.


Also lock that dude up for good
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6836 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Shitty corporate policies


Yes. My company has a policy of no firearm on premise. 20yrs ago 2 friends of mine were escorted to the back room of their office and shot behind the head. Now everyone I know in this company has a handgun for protection of themselves and employees.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:44 am to
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runs out of the store with a stolen gun


I agree and in the two stores that I own that sell guns, the guy's actions would probably have gotten his arse shot... However, my policy is different than the big box stores when it comes to loss prevention...

You are dealing with lawyers and corporate lawyers at that where a one size for all policy is all they can see...

Sucks for the store manager...
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17188 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:44 am to
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What is going on with Florida?



What is going on with retailers in general?

Why even bother with cashiers and registers if they are going to simply allow people to walk out with goods?

Scenario: person wheels cart up to cashier, knows policy is under $300 dollars they can walk out unreported and unobstructed. Tells cashier when the total hits $301 to "retract that pack of candy bars". Total is "$299.04 sir." Person walks out without paying a cent.

Hell, no need for cash, credik, nor debik at all!!!
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4718 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:46 am to
You only get rewarded for stopping people with crab legs in Tallahassee.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
7975 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:47 am to
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Considering it happened in Tallahassee and not a place like Cali, this surprises me.



It shouldn't, really. Meth, heroine and opioids have done unspeakable damage in Florida. This is just a case of that running into a corporate policy to protect them from the 43,542,365,980 personal injury attorneys in Florida.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

However, as a store manager, you would be expected to follow company policy

Agree 1000%, however
quote:

so I can see them firing the manager.

Sometimes instincts just take over
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:50 am to
quote:

the store manager who stopped Jason White from leaving the Mahan Drive store with a .40-caliber pistol from the firearms counter
quote:

Jason White
LSU broke him... guy won the Heisman. Had a possible bright future in the NFL. Now he's robbing pistols from chain retailers and getting tackled by store managers instead of Lionel Turner and Marcus Spears... sad.
Posted by Chili
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2005
465 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:50 am to
You’re spot on regarding the company policies not to engage. The problem is that in many larger cities, the police have implemented policies to no longer respond to shoplifting complaints. So, these criminals get away easy.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8283 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:51 am to
Academy sports looks bad if true. I can see it now people come in steal guns mags and ammo and just run out the door lol
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