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re: A jury decided they were not guilty. A judge sentenced them to life in prison anyway
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:27 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:27 pm to 4cubbies
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its almost as if… they continue to be oppressed.
Of course they are.
Leftists still exist.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 9:33 pm
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:33 pm to 4cubbies
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how can black people be expected to be model humans because things have been less shitty for the last 50 years?
So you don’t think black people can be model humans.
I disagree with your racist take.
Like I said, black people are oppressed, by leftists who burden them with the bigotry of low expectations.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:49 am to 4cubbies
quote:We are three gens past civil rights. Sorry! Zero empathy in that regard. Again, cite the situation of your great-grandparents which locked you into anything. I asked before. you talked about your grandparents. The answer for 99.9% of people is status, beliefs, etc of their GGparents have zero effect on success or failure of GGchildren.
After being oppressed for hundreds of years, how can black people be expected to be model humans because things have been less shitty for the last 50 years?
Further, you speak of Blacks as a monolith. That is inappropriate. It's troubling, and it's insulting. What you are trying to address is that population subsection which is experiencing intergenerational poverty. Meanwhile, the rest of the American Black population reaps benefits of the most upwardly mobile society in world history. Again 4.6% are millionaires.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:53 am to NC_Tigah
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Further, you speak of Blacks as a monolith. That is inappropriate. It's troubling, and it's insulting.
According to 4cubbies and the leftist goose-steppers, black people are all the same…incapable.
I vehemently disagree with her portrayal.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:55 am to 4cubbies
quote:and there are differences between individuals ... even Black individuals, cubbies. That may come as a surprise to you.
Entire populations are made up of individuals.
I have so many Black friends who come nowhere near the portrait your painting. TBH, your stereotyping is beginning to make this an uncomfortable discussion.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:59 am to jimmy the leg
quote:Yep.
I vehemently disagree with her portrayal.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:14 am to NC_Tigah
quote:seriously? He’s trolling and thinks he had some gotcha moment by claiming I said no black person could be a model citizen. And you’re encouraging him.
Yep
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:16 am to NC_Tigah
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I have so many Black friends who come nowhere near the portrait your painting.
Yet you’re the one claiming they are better off being the descendants of American slaves than if their ancestors were never enslaved. But somehow that makes me think lowly of black people?
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:18 am to 4cubbies
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He’s trolling
You wrote it.
I quoted it.
You are a typical leftist in that you view blacks as being incapable.
I think otherwise.
Perhaps you shouldn’t have said the quiet part out loud.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:27 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Then we are wasting our time having a discussion. If you think the hundreds of years of government-sanctioned abuse and discrimination has no impact on the socioeconomic statuses of black people today then we fundamentally disagree and will never be able to understand the other's position.
We are three gens past civil rights. Sorry! Zero empathy in that regard
quote:Not at all, that's actually what you did. When I brought up that black people are individuals you countered by saying you were speaking of the "entire population," as if the entire population isn't made up of individuals.
Further, you speak of Blacks as a monolith.
quote:and 17% live in poverty.
Again 4.6% are millionaires.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:32 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:16 am to 4cubbies
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and 17% live in poverty.
Generally in cities controlled by Democrats.
Poor country blacks and poor country whites are typically facing similar issues.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:31 am to 4cubbies
quote:Oh my God! They are infinitely better off. Have you lost your mind?
Yet you’re the one claiming they are better off being the descendants of American slaves than if their ancestors were never enslaved.
There are 600 people worth >$1M in Sierra Leone out of an 8.4M population. So, 0.007% millionaires there compared with 4.6% here. That's a >650X difference. You're damn right it's better here!
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:34 am to 4cubbies
quote:NO!
has no impact on the socioeconomic statuses
I think that after a period of 50-100 yrs the impact, if any, is minimized. You think the impact is gargantuan, overwhelming, so huge it is impossible to overcome! That is a ridiculous position.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 9:35 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:36 am to 4cubbies
quote:No. He's tracking EXACTLY what I said.
He’s trolling and thinks he had some gotcha moment by claiming I said no black person could be a model citizen. And you’re encouraging him.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:56 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
I think that after a period of 50-100 yrs the impact, i
What was the exact date that slavery, failed Reconstruction, Jim Crow, and exclusionary and predatory government policies stopped impacting the descendants of slaves?
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so huge it is impossible to overcome!
No.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:59 am to NC_Tigah
quote:And everyone worships money and judges their quality of life based on how many millionaires live in their countries?
You're damn right it's better here!
You’re incapable of acknowledging that other people might have different values than you. Money isn’t everything.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:36 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Sorry.
so huge it is impossible to overcome!
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No.
That is precisely your argument. You're asserting the impact is gargantuan, overwhelming, and so huge it is impossible to overcome. So much so, that you act personally offended anyone would question your absurd premise.
Either that, or you're saying that even if the impact would not be impossible to overcome for some races, it is for the Black race.
Which is it?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:41 pm to 4cubbies
quote:100%.
Money isn’t everything.
But is certainly a measuring stick of success and comfort when the COMPARISON IS A ONE-HUNDRED-FOLD DIFFERENCE! When that comparison extrapolates to an ENTIRE POPULATION, one can easily draw reasonable conclusions, assuming one is reasonable of course.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:52 pm to NC_Tigah
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You're asserting the impact is gargantuan, overwhelming, and so huge it is impossible to overcome.
I’m not. I’m asserting that the impacts are so profound and pervasive that they’ve hindered a significant number of the descendants of slaves from achieving the same level of stability that other demographics have been afforded.
quote:
Either that, or you're saying that even if the impact would not be impossible to overcome for some races, it is for the Black race.
I named several successful black people a few comments ago.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:31 pm to 4cubbies
quote:OMG!
You're asserting the impact is gargantuan, overwhelming, and so huge it is impossible to overcome.
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I’m not. I’m asserting that the impacts are so profound and pervasive that they’ve hindered a significant number of the descendants of slaves from achieving the same level of stability that other demographics have been afforded.
You've been talking about "Jim Crow".
Hence my reference to 3-gens.
But you were actually talking the period back to slavery?
Going back to slavery expands the equation to 7-9 gens, and leaves your posit even more ridiculous.
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