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9/11/01 Is The Catalyst For All This
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:49 pm
Let's step back in time shall we. People forget, but George W. Bush's 2000 campaign regarding foreign policy sounded more like Pat Buchanan than John McCain. And then mere months after he's inaugurated, we have 9/11. After 9/11, we declare war on a tactic. We invade Afghanistan, then Iraq, drone bomb half a dozen countries, invade Libya and then Syria. We pass the Patriot Act, the NDAA and grant the FBI and NSA unimaginable powers. We effectively allowed them to create a state within a state, all in the name of security.
They will never give up the powers we granted them. And don't just blame the Democrats. The Republican Party loved these institutions during the Bush administration and the Democrats love them now. The point is, it should be clear to anyone with a brain who benefitted most from 3,000 dead Americans. If they're willing to try and oust the most powerful man in the world because he's a political outsider, what would they do to us peasants if it meant unlimited resources and power?
If we ever get out of this insanity, we will be judged as the cowardly generation, who let a fear of goat herders in the Middle East put the last nail in the coffin of a constitutional republic. We were warned, but as usual, the fear overrode our principles.
They will never give up the powers we granted them. And don't just blame the Democrats. The Republican Party loved these institutions during the Bush administration and the Democrats love them now. The point is, it should be clear to anyone with a brain who benefitted most from 3,000 dead Americans. If they're willing to try and oust the most powerful man in the world because he's a political outsider, what would they do to us peasants if it meant unlimited resources and power?
If we ever get out of this insanity, we will be judged as the cowardly generation, who let a fear of goat herders in the Middle East put the last nail in the coffin of a constitutional republic. We were warned, but as usual, the fear overrode our principles.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:51 pm to SCLibertarian
Never give DC more of anything. It’s why I’m against gov owned health care. You can never take it back.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:52 pm to SCLibertarian
Spot on.
Listen Snowden speak on this. We can split American history in to pre and post 9/11. All in the name of "national security".
Listen Snowden speak on this. We can split American history in to pre and post 9/11. All in the name of "national security".
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:53 pm to SCLibertarian
You need to back your time line up about 40 years there bub.
This shite aint nothing new.
This shite aint nothing new.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:54 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:The truth! Bush started it. Obama abused it to the max and not a hair on his head will be harmed or in a prison cell where he belongs because he is a historic savior President.
9/11/01 Is The Catalyst For All This
All of the frustration, all of the infuriating thoughts; because of one miserable President and the uniparty making money off of NGO's and the chamber of commerce special interests.
If there is justice Brennan will be arrested soon.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:55 pm to SCLibertarian
Which is why the rational view is that 9/11 was orchestrated on purpose.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:57 pm to Snipe
Yeah the FBI/DOJ covered up Waco, the IRS political arm McCain and dems used to get rid of the tea party, and Ruby Ridge with rogue agents, some things never change. We can pray and still hope that something will happen to stop the corruption and slush funds.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:57 pm to roadGator
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Never give DC more of anything.
This is what I've been trying to tell people about building a border wall. Just like the Patriot Act, it will be used against the citizenry the day it's completed.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:58 pm to The Funnie Five
I was a Ron Paul acolyte in 2008 and 2012 and active on the Daily Paul forums, but I never saw myself as a 9/11 Truther. What I have seen our political and media establishment do over the past 3 years to a political outsider has led me to believe there is nothing they won't do to keep their power and the gravy train that accompanies it.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:59 pm to Snipe
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You need to back your time line up about 40 years there bub.
This shite aint nothing new.
Wrong. The Patriot Act put all of this out in the open, allowing the Fed Gov to openly act unconstitutionally.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:59 pm to SCLibertarian
If they are willing to subvert the will of the people they are willing to do almost anything.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:01 pm to cajunangelle
I would argue that it started with the Islamic Revolution of 1979. That event completely changed our military. The combatant commands and SOCOM were born of that event. SOCOM and our overly massive numbers of SOF troops have given an excuse for the politicians to start little wars all over the world. 9/11 wouldn’t have happened without 1979. Our easy to justify use of SOF troops made the growth of FEDGOV powers an inevitability after 9/11.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:03 pm to SCLibertarian
Member when dems whined about the Patriot Act? Not anymore, they love it.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:07 pm to SCLibertarian
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Pat Buchanan than John McCain
a paleo-con and a neo-con?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:15 pm to The Funnie Five
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Which is why the rational view is that 9/11 was orchestrated on purpose.
I don’t want say it was orchestrated, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was allowed to happen.
CIA - “Mr. President, we have reason to believe that there’s a terrorist plot to involving planes and the twin towers in New York. What would you like us to do?”
Bush - “Let it happen. We can use it as leverage to pass a mass surveillance bill on the American public.”
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:and lousy Presidents with the Bush's and Obama being the worst.
I would argue that it started with the Islamic Revolution of 1979. That event completely changed our military. The combatant commands and SOCOM were born of that event. SOCOM and our overly massive numbers of SOF troops have given an excuse for the politicians to start little wars all over the world. 9/11 wouldn’t have happened without 1979. Our easy to justify use of SOF troops made the growth of FEDGOV powers an inevitability after 9/11.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:26 pm to SCLibertarian
All true but I would argue it was more Anger than "Cowardice". and That anger will be 10 fold "IF" we find out it was staged. That anger will not be for the "goat herders", either.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:29 pm to SCLibertarian
And the american people will not do a goddamn thing but grab their ankles and complain on the Internet. Y’all should end all your post with this.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
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This is what I've been trying to tell people about building a border wall.
What a retard !
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:32 pm to LookSquirrel
9/11 was allowed to happen and building 7 didn't fall down on its own.
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