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re: 6 days ago Spain bragged about being 100% green energy. Black outs now.

Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:24 pm to
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Because humans never survived winters before electricity


They did.

Burning coal and wood.

How do you think that would go over in Massachusetts, or NY, or other NE utopias?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:20 pm to
Will anyone learn anything from this? No.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:21 pm to
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Because humans never survived winters before electricity.
You might be more correct than your sarcastic little mind might be thinking.

If only a very few from the inner cities survived winter we would be better off.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6146 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:37 pm to
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"Excess solar resulted in too little inertia”…….. can I get a translation


This quote is referring to a technical issue in power grid management. Let me break it down:

"Excess solar" means there was too much solar power being generated and fed into the grid at a particular time.

"Too little inertia" refers to the physical property of rotational inertia that traditional power generators (like coal, gas, or nuclear plants) naturally provide to the grid. These conventional generators have large spinning turbines that resist changes in their rotation speed, which helps stabilize grid frequency.

So the quote is saying that having too much solar power generation relative to conventional generation created a stability problem in the electrical grid. Since solar power systems are connected through electronic inverters rather than spinning masses, they don't naturally provide the same stabilizing inertia to the grid. When the proportion of solar gets too high without proper compensation measures, the grid can become unstable and vulnerable to fluctuations, potentially leading to a power outage.

This is one of the technical challenges in transitioning to renewable energy sources - finding ways to maintain grid stability while incorporating more non-inertial generation like solar and wind.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:39 pm to
John Kerry appreciates those buffoons as he jets across Europe.
Posted by TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
1122 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:56 pm to
Thanks for the info
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10308 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:16 am to
Franco is laughing.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3378 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:46 am to
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Getting rid of nuclear and coal


I am a moron and I'm not even stupid enough to do that. Why would you even mess with the things keeping society going? It's like bragging your the first human to give up drinking water.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18030 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:48 am to
Back in those days people had to fend for themselves and were pretty resourceful.

All the pussies pushing this shite on the world don't know how to change a frickin light bulb much less know how to start a fire to stay warm, And that's a fact
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:10 am to
So are they 100% green or no?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173726 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:16 am to
They're probably discounting how much of it came from battery power if I had to guess
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55560 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:16 am to
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Actually, if we didn’t have power here in the us. Everyone would be moving south of the mason Dixon line.

Nope. Disease would make the south a tough place to live. White people were not made to live in tropical or sub-tropical areas without power. Before the advent of cheap electricity people crowded up north.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17477 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:24 am to
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Because humans never survived winters before electricity.


Well they didn’t have leftists banning them from burning wood for heat either.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16125 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:28 am to
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It’s FAFO time in Western Europe.


You mean like the Germans shutting their nukes down to ... rely on Russian natural gas? That aged well. But, never overlook the willingness of the sheeple to misunderstand choices and consequences more than 30 days after an event. The socialists in Spain will just insist it's why they need more "renewables."
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
18410 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:33 am to
The Dark Ages return to Europe.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14025 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:30 am to
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When the proportion of solar gets too high without proper compensation measures, the grid can become unstable and vulnerable to fluctuations, potentially leading to a power outage.

Good post. In Hawaii, we ended NEM because of having so much generation during the day. It forced homeowners who wanted to buy solar to also get batteries if they wanted solar and that along with Advanced Inverter features has stabilized the grid. I would think Spain has some huge battery banks, but if they don't that would be one way to help compensate for all the excess daytime production.
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