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re: 41 Democrats went on an AIPAC-sponsored trip to Israel
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:12 pm to Dale51
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:12 pm to Dale51
quote:What does this have to do with our politicians taking bribes from foreign governments?
You're confused.
I'm not comparing R vs D..I'm pointing our ral situations vs the made up "crisis" of climate cycles, and the "need" for everyone to alter their lives in order to shift trillions of tax dollars to hucksters like Al Gore et.al.
What don't you understand about this?
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:13 pm
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:15 pm to Pecker
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What if I told you that I think sending money to a country that has its own money is not a good investment? What if I told you think I don't think we should send billions to fight the global warming crisis either?
Great! That was my question. Thanks for answering.
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Do you work for AIPAC?
Focus Bias is limiting your ability to think rationally?
"I'm not saying that it's the Jews.....but it's the Jews"
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:17 pm to Pecker
Getting some tips on subversion no doubt
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:19 pm to Dale51
You're not making any sense here. Why do you keep trying to divert attention from the topic? Why are our politicians going (by scores) on all-expense paid trips by a foreign government and then returning home and lobbying for that government? This is okay to you?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:21 pm to Pecker
They are our greatest ally. What is the problem here? It is our duty as Americans to ensure the sovereignty, safety, and well-being of the Jewish people both abroad and in their homeland.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:23 pm to HempHead
quote:You make good points. Sometimes I see strange articles about what I can only assume are glaring conflicts of interest. Then I get worked up about it and don't stop to think that there are certain special relationships, such as this one, that do truly benefit Americans. We should all continue to do our part to support democracy and the fight against terrorism abroad.
They are our greatest ally. What is the problem here? It is our duty as Americans to ensure the sovereignty, safety, and well-being of the Jewish people both abroad and in their homeland.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:26 pm to Pecker
L'Chaim 
Let's eat bacon wrapped shrimp, sauteed in butter.
Let's eat bacon wrapped shrimp, sauteed in butter.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:27 pm to Pecker
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I don't need to do either of these things.
Fair enough.
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It's my money. I don't have to tell you how I want to spend i
On a yearly basis...how much of your money is being spent on that?..ballpark.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:27 pm to Pecker
Why the hell isn’t AIPAC required to register as foreign agents?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:29 pm to HempHead
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They are our greatest ally. What is the problem here? It is our duty as Americans to ensure the sovereignty, safety, and well-being of the Jewish people both abroad and in their homeland.
I wonder if the Jews in Israel would risk their life and limb to defend us in a purely regional conflict here in North America. We already know the answer though.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:29 pm to Pecker
quote:
What does this have to do with our politicians taking bribes from foreign governments?
How are you defining "taking bribes"?
Without that definition a dialogue can not take place.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:30 pm to Fairbanks
quote:Probably because even though they're funded by a foreign government, the work they do actually benefits Americans. The $38B+ in US tax dollars is making America a better place. It's difficult to see how that works, but it does. They're our greatest ally.
Why the hell isn’t AIPAC required to register as foreign agents?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:31 pm to SCLibertarian
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I wonder if the Jews in Israel would risk their life and limb to defend us in a purely regional conflict here in North America. We already know the answer though.
They have their own safety and concerns you anti-Semite. Why would an Israeli give their life for an American conflict?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:32 pm to Dale51
quote:I apologize for getting worked up. I assumed some things that were coming from a place of ignorance due to my lack of understanding on this topic. We must do what we can to preserve this special relationship, and hopefully in time, maybe make it even more special.
How are you defining "taking bribes"?
Without that definition a dialogue can not take place.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:33 pm to Pecker
RFK wanted to get AIPAC to register as foreign agents, and he was so pro-Israel by the standards of the 1960s that he got assasinated for it.
Today, no politician would dare suggest that AIPAC should have to register as foreign agents.
Today, no politician would dare suggest that AIPAC should have to register as foreign agents.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:34 pm to Fairbanks
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RFK wanted to get AIPAC to register as foreign agents, and he was so pro-Israel by the standards of 1964 that he got assasinated for it.
I'm not sure that was the reason for his offing, but certain folks surely weren't happy about his stance. Nor were they fans of his opposition to Israel becoming a nuclear power.
Luckily we have evolved beyond such prejudices.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:35 pm to Pecker
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Why are our politicians going (by scores) on all-expense paid trips by a foreign government and then returning home and lobbying for that government? This is okay to you?
That only makes sense in a Begging the Question Fallacy, imo.
You seem to be implying that those very same politicians would not support Israel without these "bribes".
Is this accurate?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 pm to Fairbanks
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Why the hell isn’t AIPAC required to register as foreign agents?
Fair enough.
What other countries do you find that to be a valid point that should be applied?
Just curious.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 pm to Dale51
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That only makes sense in a Begging the Question Fallacy, imo.
You seem to be implying that those very same politicians would not support Israel without these "bribes".
Is this accurate?
No sir, that was just a result of my ignorance on the topic. I've already apologized for what I now know were comments that bordered on antisemitic canards. Some governments deserve our trust, especially if they've earned it. Although our country was founded on an inherent distrust of government, I think we should take a flyer on this one.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:44 pm to SCLibertarian
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I wonder if the Jews in Israel would risk their life and limb to defend us in a purely regional conflict
American troops are fighting in Israel in what degree?
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