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re: 4 truths: Floyd "maybe" would be alive had he not had fentanyl and meth in his system.

Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:40 pm to
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You're condoning a person in handcuffs getting a....


Explaining and condoning are two different things.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10328 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:43 pm to
You can't have an honest conversation about the Floyd situation without looking at both sides of the equation.

Floyd was in the wrong to put himself in that position in the first place. He was no innocent angel in all of this.

The officer (Chauvin) could have handled the situation differently of course as well. Floyd did not deserve to die like that.

Very few people have seen an extended version of the incident. Floyd was absolutely resting arrest prior to the clip that all of the media outlets have shown.

The whole clip doesn't fit a preferred narrative though...so it has not been shown. Those who control the media are partly responsible for this shite show.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:45 pm to
I reread my truthful post to see where I condoned and in my ignorance I missed it. Help me if you will.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92561 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:53 pm to
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there are multiple videos that show him not resisting?


I saw a few seconds from a very distant video that appeared as though he yanked away from officers while still on his feet. I'm not condoning anything that happened while he was on the ground, particularly the delay in getting him assistance after several minutes of his being non-responsive, but I fear some of this has been selectively curated to show the cops in the worst possible light and Floyd in the best possible light (a la Rodney King, which again, I felt the cops overreacted and used excessive force but did NOT attempt to kill the linebacker-sized Mr. King.)

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27811 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:01 pm to
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By the time the trial rolls around in a year...


There's no way in hell this goes to a trial.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:02 pm to
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3 cops watched as 1 cop put his knee on the his neck for what 4mins and he never moved. don't mean to be a dick but show me a link to a video or body cam that shows him reisting.

if resisting the police is a good reason for them killing you i would have died at 28.. 16 years later i am alive to tell the story.


Never said him resisting was a good reason for him to die don’t be a dipshit. Clearly it is not but your statement was in regards to him resisting and you said that you had only seen video of him not resisting.

Twitter of Scuffle In Car
Either the cops are beating him or they are having trouble getting him buckled you decide what is more likely.

Also with this camera angle why not show the full video of cops waking him over and him falling down? I suspect it agrees with the Prosecutors report saying he resisted and went stiff so they could not put him in the car.

YouTube taking Floyd out of the car and across street

Prosecutors Report Notes Floyd Resisting

Well the fact is the police walked him to the driver side of the car and we see that. Then we see a struggle in the car. Then we see he somehow ends up on the ground on the passenger side of the car. Again why are all the videos cut? You go ahead and provide a plausible reason why they are cut please.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2137 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:04 pm to
There is no chance this guy gets a fair trial or jury...with Ellison running the show
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131151 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Neither you or anyone has any idea how much pressure was being applied, nor at this time the actual causes of death.
I do.
There is no question whatsoever the cops caused death.
None!

They cause Floyd's death >2 mins BEFORE Officer Kneelonneck stood up.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:08 pm to
Relax dude. You supporting the cops who murdered a man on video?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7758 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
1 truth that pretty much makes every single truth in there invalid

1) Floyd would 100% not have died on that street if a knee wasn't placed on his neck for 9 minutes
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131151 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:31 pm to
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We wouldn't be here if Floyd hadn't tried to counterfeit
Was the money counterfeit? I've heard mixed reports.
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And then according to two separate medical reports either died a natural death due in part to drugs or the excitement of the arrest.
Negative.
Both categorized Floyd's death as a homicide.
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