re: 4 GOP Senators jump sides to vote with dems

Its all theater. They knew it wouldn’t pass. They voted with Dems because of upcoming elections, they are in blue areas and use these type votes to get that middle vote.

quote:

---

Is there a bigger pussy in congress?

---

There's a few... but not many.

It should be no surprise that Paul voted to limit the POTUS’ war powers.

He’s consistent on that issue. He didn’t flip to vote with Dems.

m m m good ole conservatives my fricking arse

quote:

---

All republicans should have voted for it if they care about the constitution.

---

I tend to agree here. Rand Paul typically votes very much in line with the constitutional idea of a limited federal government. In this particular instance, he stands by the constitutional mandate that, while the president is indeed the commander-in-chief, only congress can authorize/declare war since it is congress who has spending authority, not the executive branch. Congress, however, has shirked this duty since the end of WWII, and has allowed the executive branch to dictate when, where, and for how long our military forces will be deployed world wide.

It's more than past time for congress to start fulfilling their constitutional duties and for the presidency to return to its role as an executive branch without having the unbridled authority to deploy our military forces to prosecute wars (under the name of "police actions" or some other term) without a declaration of war.

I'm not griping about Trump's use of military force in Iran, per se. I'm griping about Trump's use of force in Iran, as well as Clinton's military actions regarding Kosovo, Bush's actions in Iraq and Afghanistan and Obama's continuance of that undeclared war, Johnson's undeclared war in Vietnam, and Truman's undeclared war (under guise of UN actions) in Korea. NONE of these uses of our nation's military forces passes the smell test of constitutionally authorized military action.

It's time to reel in the war powers of the executive branch, as well as force congress to fulfill their constitutional duties and obligations insofar as their authority to declare war.

That being said, I am fully behind President Trump in his bid to return America to her rightful place as the shining light of liberty and prosperity for the world, but we need to return to constitutional limits in a very strict sense if this nation is to continue to survive and proper.

And nary a soul was shocked at the names.