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re: 2016 Hypothetical: Ted Cruz vs Elizabeth Warren

Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:33 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:33 am to
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I don't like all of her politics but I think she is directionally correct on the banking oligarchy.


Agreed, and the irony is a lot of the banking influence in DC can be traced back to Clinton's Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:41 am to
Cruz
Cruz
Posted by PVnRT
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:44 am to
Posted by WPBTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:45 am to
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I would vote for Ted Cruz in a second but he won't even sniff at the party's nomination. Warren may have a shot.

In an head-to-head, basing it off this November's voter referendum, I'd give the nod to Cruz.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:53 am to
Cruz would destroy her in a debate. She would start crying.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98142 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:53 am to
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What banking reforms are you hoping for


Breaking up the too big to fail institutions would be a good start.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:55 am to
I can't say Warren is a long-shot. She will have a deathgrip on the party's base, AND she's getting OFA.

If that's a longshot, anyone except HRC is (and she's fading fast).

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:58 am to
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Didn't Warren come out yesterday and say that she's not considering a run in 2016?


"I'm not running for President." - meaning she is not running right now.

She said nothing about ruling out a run or "considering" a run. So I ask the question - why would you need a special, "Chief Liberal in the Senate" leadership position, AND OFA - if one was not even considering a run for President?

Biden and HRC are givens. Warren would run ahead of both of those in several states. Why wouldn't she consider it?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:44 am to
One talking head on Fox said that Warren as president would make Obama look like Ronald Regan. Cruz is detested by a very large majority of the Republican party.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:55 am to
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"Chief Liberal in the Senate"
ISWYDT

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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112417 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:58 am to
1. Cruz

2. Warren
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Cruz is detested by a very large majority of the Republican party.

Only if you believe the entire republican party consist of the stasis adoring members of congress. The establishment part of the party fears Cruz and for me that's a ringing endorsement for the senator.

Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:19 pm to
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establishment part of the party fears Cruz
And the portion of the party that isn't so socially conservative that they want to ban gay pride parades and have the federal govt. define marriage.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:25 pm to
You might as well start a thread "snowball vs ice cube. Which has a better chance in Hell"
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:25 pm to
God you people are delusional
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69252 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:26 pm to
Bengal, would you vote for john kasich over warren?
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:34 pm to
She has the same shot Kucinech had and I never thought what if with either. If I disliked the nominee I would do what others here have said they'd do with a bad GOP nominee, vote 3rd party. You OTOH have said you would always vote GOP
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:35 pm to
I don't think Lieawatha can get the nomination.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69252 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:35 pm to
I voted for Jerry brown because he went against his democratic friends and cut the budget.

Your assertion was built on weak and shifting sand.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:40 pm to
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And the portion of the party that isn't so socially conservative that they want to ban gay pride parades and have the federal govt. define marriage.

I suppose for me positions on social issues are the least determining factor for selecting a president. I understand their significance but eight years of a president focused solely on the social is enough for a while.
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