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re: 2014 May = warmest on record.

Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:07 am to
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Besides shifting weather patterns worldwide, that extra El Niño-fueled ocean warmth is supercharging the Earth’s temperature, which could help make 2014 the warmest year since human records have been kept, and probably for much longer.


lol
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:07 am to
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Really? Can you please show me the last time in Earth's history the entire Earth has warmed 1 degree Centigrade in 3 seconds?


You sir, are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. But, really, it's worse than that. You're a pawn in a game you don't even know is being played. Worse than ignorant (some ignorant people want to learn and evolve) - you make people dumber by merely engaging with you.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:07 am to
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Don't sell the climate changers short.

Once they fail in convincing people about the CO2 bullshite, they will start claiming we need to "control" the Sun.

Of course, this is assuming that they will finally tell the world what the "correct" global temperature is supposed to be.




Right, its all a big conspiracy. You need more tin foil, dude.


LINK


I'm just curious though, since you are smarter than the scientists, can you explain how it is that less Sun = higher temperature? Seems odd.


Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:08 am to
I'd be more willing to pay taxes to fund warp drive research so we can escape this planet than give my money to climate change research.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:09 am to
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You sir, are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. But, really, it's worse than that. You're a pawn in a game you don't even know is being played. Worse than ignorant (some ignorant people want to learn and evolve) - you make people dumber by merely engaging with you.



No, seriously, I wanna know. Please tell me the last time Earth warmed ~1 Centigrade in 3 seconds (or - in the real people time the rest of us use - 150 years) - or at least point to a time in the past where the variability of temperature over longer periods implies variability of 1 degree over 3 seconds (150 years for the rest of us).

Thanks.

Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:11 am to
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Of course it's fudged data and apples-to-oranges data, but let's ignore all that and cripple the economies of the West, right?

(If it saves 1 polar bear....)



Right. Now that we have computers, all the data we collected before computers is no good anymore. Because it just sucks. its old and yucky.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:12 am to
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Is that what your post is suggesting?
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Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:13 am to
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as soon as you tell everyone what the Earths median temperature is supposed to be



I'm interpreting your answer as "N".
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:14 am to
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In April, monthly concentrations of carbon dioxide reached 400 parts per million for the first time in at least 800,000 years.


this is a retarded stat, on its face.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:14 am to
IDGAF fatboy.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:14 am to
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No, seriously, I wanna know. Please tell me the last time Earth warmed ~1 Centigrade in 3 seconds (or - in the real people time the rest of us use - 150 years) - or at least point to a time in the past where the variability of temperature over longer periods implies variability of 1 degree over 3 seconds (150 years for the rest of us).


If the reconstructed data is to be believed, the Medieval Warm Period had an equivalent temperature change.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:18 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:15 am to
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Please tell me the last time Earth warmed ~1 Centigrade in 3 seconds (or - in the real people time the rest of us use - 150 years) - or at least point to a time in the past where the variability of temperature over longer periods implies variability of 1 degree over 3 seconds (150 years for the rest of us).


Answer: from 850 to 1,000 AD.

Next....

This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:15 am to
ofcourse you are.


1. there is data that the Earth is actually cooling. ...not raising 1 degree like you keep posting.

2. what if the Earth temp did rise 1 degree....how do you know that we're not still below the normal temp of the Earth?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:17 am to
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this is a retarded stat, on its face.


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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:17 am to
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Now that we have computers, all the data we collected before computers is no good anymore. Because it just sucks. its old and yucky.


I never even suggested that - but to say that our temperature resolution can be compared apples-to-apples with data collected and recorded in the late 19th century is LUDICROUS. Doing so with reconstructed data is more so. 2 or 3 degrees is more obviously a difference, but a few tenths is very close to within the margin of error at this point.

Not old and yucky, but not directly comparable to modern techniques and modern data collection/error correction.
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:18 am to
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In April, monthly concentrations of carbon dioxide reached 400 parts per million for the first time in at least 800,000 years.


Who and what instrument did they use to measure carbon dioxide 800,000 years ago? Please elaborate. From what I understand we haven't been recording this kind of data but for about the last 100-150 years.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:18 am to
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If the reconstructed data is to be believed, the Medieval Warming Period had an equivalent temperature change.



I'm not seeing it.



LINK
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:20 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:19 am to
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Who and what instrument did they use to measure carbon dioxide 800,000 years ago? Please elaborate. From what I understand we haven't been recording this kind of data but for about the last 100-150 years.


These posts are why you guys get cast in a terrible light. You can read the carbon in the atmosphere for millions of years by ice core sampling permafrost.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:20 am to
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Now that we have computers, all the data we collected before computers is no good anymore.
Care to compare temperature accuracies between mercury-based devices and platinum?
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:21 am to
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Carbon cap & trade has already been proposed by multiple people


Does this really solve the problem? How do we put a carbon cap and trade on china, india, or other developing nations? Do you really think they give a shite about this? Why do you want to create more taxes and futher slow a stalling economy?

What about giving tax credit and tax breaks to companies that choose to reduce carbon emmisions on their own? Does that fit you agenda?
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