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re: 2 of the 4 Sniper Teams were Local Cops

Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:10 am to
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Too many parties involved hurts the CT narrative a good bit.

I know you say this kind of stupid shite to troll the board, but damn dude, you constantly try to out-dumbass yourself.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466160 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:10 am to
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But it would suck for him to not have the larger outdoor rallies.


After the initial shock of what happened, this popped into my head earlier than it probably should have. Curious to see how this plays out.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23227 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:10 am to
The pre-rally set up is the main issue.....
all roofs and trees need to be 10000% secure.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2883 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:11 am to
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That’s likely going to be a chain in the fence. Two minutes is more than enough time to overcome that issue. Local police to supervisor: Guy on the roof with a gun. Supervisor to SS Liaison: Report of guy on the roof with a gun. SS Liaison to SS officers on Stage: Report of guy on the roof with a gun.


You’re leaving out a “yeah, they’re probably reporting our CS guys…no? You sure? Which roof? Well, they sent somebody to check it out. Might be an officer up there. Lemme check”… at each of those stages.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466160 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:11 am to
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I know you say this kind of stupid shite to troll the board, but damn dude, you constantly try to out-dumbass yourself.

So you think executing a CT is easier with more people involved? Explain your logic.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:11 am to
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I left room to consider that the guy having access to that roof at all may be a bigger one.


That's where I'm at. This wasn't a cityscape with multiple buildings and you make do with what you have. This wasn't a perimeter they pushed out 500 yards and thought that was reasonable enough for the circumstances. That building sticks out like a sore thumb when you look at the overheads and there's no excuse, none, for it not being secured.

If this was the military the person in charge on the ground would already have been relieved, along with one or two of his superiors up the chain. It wouldn't matter if they executed perfectly once the shot was fired because leaving that building unsecured is that egregious.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2761 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:13 am to
I called in on page 42 of the main thread. The guys in the video, based on their reaction, had probably never taken fire. That takes a minute to process the first time, I don't care who you are.

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Here's my possible take on the Security Sniper video.

First, it looks like there is possibly two sets of two security snipers. I saw one Pic with a separate team of snipers with black boonie type hats on. Their rifles were on tall tripods and it looked like they were on the other barn.

To me, it looked like the "baseball cap" team wasn't Secret Service. Their vests say "Police". I think the secret service vests say nothing.
To me it didn't look like either of the "Baseball cap" team fired at all. It's very possible that they saw the spectators indicating a gunman through the scope and the one guy came off the scope to get a better field of vision to figure out what General area the shooter was located in.

When you set up teams like this, each team will get a "Sector" to cover. That building was likely in the "police" snipers sector and they just missed him altogether.

I think the shooter was taken out by the actual Secret service snipers. They ended up shooting outside of their sector, to great effect, once the danger became apparent
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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125449 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:13 am to
Sure.

All still frickups on both sides.

There are systemic failures in what happened here. You can focus on deflection and papering over them. Welcome to the forum.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:14 am to
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I know you say this kind of stupid shite to troll the board, but damn dude, you constantly try to out-dumbass yourself.



Its glorious to watch.

Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:15 am to
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So you think executing a CT is easier with more people involved? Explain your logic.

What the hell does "executing a CT" even mean?

No, I think you calling everything a "CT" or a "boomer CT" is functional retardation at best.

It was a CT that Trump was going to be assassinated.
It was a CT that COVID came from a lab in Wuhan.
It was a CT that our traitors in the WH and DHS were allowing millions of illegals into the country so they could harvest their votes in November and retain power that they already stole once (another CT).

This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 8:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466160 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:16 am to
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When you set up teams like this, each team will get a "Sector" to cover. That building was likely in the "police" snipers sector and they just missed him altogether.

I think the shooter was taken out by the actual Secret service snipers. They ended up shooting outside of their sector, to great effect, once the danger became apparent

This is a pretty solid guess.

What may end up really ruffling feathers is that I'm not sure if a public report will ever be allowed out in public, because it would reveal too many policies and strategies of SS. Even if there is a Congressional hearing, it may end up being behind closed doors.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23728 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:18 am to
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To me, it looked like the "baseball cap" team wasn't Secret Service. Their vests say "Police". I think the secret service vests say nothing.

I agree I don't think either one of them ever fired. They were too busy ducking and dodging.

But they were 100% SS. It says it right under "Police" on the back of their vests. It looks like the writing is really dirty or is gray instead of white, but zoom in and you can see it plain as day.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:19 am to
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But they were 100% SS. It says it right under "Police" on the back of their vests.


Yep, they also look fully equipped with communication devices.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2883 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:20 am to
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There are systemic failures in what happened here. You can focus on deflection and papering over them. Welcome to the forum.


You’re a fricking idiot. Nobody is deflecting blame for or pampering USSS. I’d fire every last one of those MFers.

Some of you simply don’t know what you’re talking about and the speculation weakens the argument (that we’re in agreement on).


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:21 am to
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So you think executing a CT


what does this even mean?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14267 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:22 am to
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That’s the scariest part. He didn’t have help.
How did he know what building to shoot from? Did he just show up, take a quick look around, and magically pick the perfect building to shoot from?
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:22 am to
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what does this even mean?

He has no fricking idea. He's just trying to sound smart again. Sounds like something Kamala or KJP would say.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1941 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:23 am to
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That’s the scariest part. He didn’t have help.


Even scarier, made it look so easy to do some other numb-nut will think he could do better.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125449 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:25 am to
Ok. My bad. You’re establishing your creds, not deflecting.

Cool. Thank you for imparting your wisdom.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296576 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:25 am to
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He has no fricking idea. He's just trying to sound smart again. Sounds like something Kamala or KJP would say.


While attacking the lowest hanging fruit.

It gets so fricking tiring.
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