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re: 2 1st hand accounts on Trump's negotiation with the Taliban for Afghanistan withdrawal

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Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:36 am to
So nothing but again trying to elevate your delusion of intelligence. I can see why you are not married and have no kids.
Posted by Screaming Viking
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:38 am to
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Start there.


that is what I am asking you. i didn't attack you. just looking for your opinion/position. there has to be a "why" as to your definitive answer.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:41 am to
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there has to be a "why" as to your definitive answer.


Good luck!

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i didn't attack you


It's his MO
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:43 am to
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that is what I am asking you. i didn't attack you. just looking for your opinion/position. there has to be a "why" as to your definitive answer.


I thought I was pretty clear. I think this...

quote:

2 1st hand accounts on Trump's negotiation with the Taliban for Afghanistan withdrawal


...is bullshite.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:43 am to
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:45 am to
quote:

2 1st hand accounts on Trump's negotiation with the Taliban for Afghanistan withdrawal


...is bullshite.



so who's lying?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:54 am to
...the OP.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:12 am to
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Christ almighty...it's like I'm playing cards with my brother's kids.


I feel the same way, my kids often make up their own rules that they can’t explain and then get mad at me for not understanding. They also shift to name calling pretty quickly.

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2 1st hand accounts on Trump's negotiation with the Taliban for Afghanistan withdrawal


I don’t have an opinion, I don’t know who these people in the video even are. But you said the people in the video were not lying, the OP was, but the quote above is all the OP said. Is the lie that they weren’t actually there? Or that the guy in the right didn’t say anything and therefore didn’t provide an account?
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 10:15 am
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:19 am to
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I think this...is bullshite


Jumping from thinking something is bullshite, or not liking what you hear, to calling someone a liar…where have I seen this before…
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:20 am to
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Is the lie that they weren’t actually there?


...yes.

That's what you were hung up on?

Holy. shite.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:21 am to
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Jumping from thinking something is bullshite, or not liking what you hear, to calling someone a liar…where have I seen this before…


If someone tells a lie, whether maliciously or not, they're a liar.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:38 am to
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...yes. That's what you were hung up on? Holy. shite.


Holy shite is right. You were asked this several times.

If you don’t doubt their credibility, and don’t think they are lying…what difference does it make in your mind that they provided a first hand account?

The guy gives the impression he was there, and you said he wasn’t lying…I really have no idea what your point is calling the OP a liar.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:40 am to
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You were asked this several times.


I also answered that several times. I suppose I should've seen your confusion when I fricking directly quoted it.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:44 am to
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I really have no idea what your point is


he doesn't either

he refuses to accept anything that reflects positively on Trump

otoh, he believes Biden at face value
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:46 am to
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If someone tells a lie, whether maliciously or not, they're a liar.


I dont think so. The difference between a liar and someone that’s just wrong is knowledge of whether they know it’s wrong (which virtually always involves malice or deceit).

So by your standards, you are lying about what a liar is.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:53 am to
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If someone tells a lie, whether maliciously or not, they're a liar.


I dont think so. The difference between a liar and someone that’s just wrong is knowledge of whether they know it’s wrong (which virtually always involves malice or deceit).

So by your standards, you are lying about what a liar is.



Bravo!
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:54 am to
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I also answered that several times. I suppose I should've seen your confusion when I fricking directly quoted it.


I’m confused because I don’t see how his “lie” even materially affects YOUR position
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:04 am to
He must have had to get back to the fry machine for lunch rush
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:55 am to
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I dont think so.


I'm OK with that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:58 am to
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I’m confused because I don’t see how his “lie” even materially affects YOUR position


That isn't why you were confused.

Here you go:
quote:

Is the lie that they weren’t actually there? Or that the guy in the right didn’t say anything and therefore didn’t provide an account?


You were confused because you did what people like you always do. You started with a conclusion and you ran with it. Now that you've demonstrably fallen on your face, you're trying to make it about something else.

It was about the OP, and that's it. Your confusion is your problem, not mine.
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