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re: 1980 Reagan & Bush debating over how to be more compassionate to undocumented children

Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:06 am to
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But I really believe in making these kids earn their way.
There's a long-standing process in place for this. They just don't want to follow it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:09 am to
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kids up that a practically Americans
no.
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They been living here almost their entire lives in many cases
THat is not the process for being granted citizenship.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:03 am to
Doesn't matter at this point because they are here. The reality is Congress at minimum will give them "temporary working visas". I've exhausted myself on this issue to be honest.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:08 am to
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Doesn't matter at this point because they are here.
Being "here" doesn't invalidate the process, nor constitutional requirements. Not getting deported isn't a citizenship criteria. Good grief.

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I've exhausted myself on this issue to be honest.
Not surprising. Takes a lot of work to argue an irrational position. .
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:10 am to
Was it compassionate of both men to fund death squads in central and South America?
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:19 am to
The problem is you don't live in the political reality of the situation. Go round these people up and throw them out the country. These kids have been here most of their lives. Almost half the Republican Party is against throwing them out.

Trumps too much of a fricking pussy to end it now and throw them out. I don't see the right wingers coming after Trump? The POTUS just took a flame thrower to the Constitution just like the last guy. So until you boyz start calling out Trump for being a liar on this issue then you have zero credibility.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:31 am to
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The problem is you don't live in the political reality of the situation.
I very much so do. By your "logic" we can't catch all murders, and most actually never get caught, so... why prosecute murders? Just let them get away with it.

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Go round these people up and throw them out the country.
This isn't the only way to deal with the problem. It's not even been proposed by anyone credible.

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These kids have been here most of their lives.
No wonder you're tired. You just keep repeating the same bumper sticker slogan as if it's going to improve your argument. It won't. Once again... successfully evading deportation is not a criteria for citizenship. Nor should it be.

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Almost half the Republican Party is against throwing them out.
So <20% of voters. not that popularity is a substitute for merit.

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The POTUS just took a flame thrower to the Constitution just like the last guy. So until you boyz start calling out Trump for being a liar on this issue then you have zero credibility.
ah the no true Scotsman! Nice one.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 1:40 am
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:43 am to
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Taxing Authority


Bet me, Congress doesn't extend their stay? Bet me, Trump doesn't sign whatever Congress sends him?

You live in a message board work Taxing Authority

Those illegal kids ain't going nowhere...
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 1:44 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:51 am to
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Bet me
I don't bet on things I don't control.

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Congress doesn't extend their stay?
You're suggesting congressional action as an argument of merit?

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Those illegal kids ain't going nowhere...
Your straw man is tired.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 1:52 am
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:02 am to
Again, the political reality is they are going nowhere.

End of story... Stop pouting
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:39 am to
Again, the issue here is you are not a conservative, you are a nevertrump liberal.

You are constantly pushing the left's agenda here. You are not fooling anybody.

Truml isnt crapping on the constitution. Daca is unconstitutional. He is getting rid of it. Thats what he ran on .

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95664 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:32 am to
Since then 1/3 of Mexico has moved to the U.S., largely illegally.

How much of the world's poor population can we absorb? Another 200 million? 500 million? 1 billion? All of them.

America will quickly not be the shining light on the hill if we do not control our borders and accept (legal) immigrants who have skills, resources and something to offer - instead of wave after wave of unskilled, impoverished folks with not even a pause to confirm assimilation, thus we have vast swaths of America that are increasingly looking like 3rd world shitholes.

So, if that's what you want, keep pushing the open borders. If you want a stable, identifiable and prosperous America - stand with us to tap the fricking brakes on this.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:20 am to
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Again, the political reality is they are going nowhere.
Sqwaaaaaak!

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Stop pouting
Who is pouting? I hold the better position
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17198 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:48 am to
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You and your friends are going to lose on this.


You made this comment a few times in this thread. So in light of today's announcement...

BUMP
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:58 pm to
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You had perhaps the greatest and most glorious meltdown we have seen in some time. Tell us...was you absence following the melt self-imposed or did your Whitney help board thread completely backfire and cause a ban?

Do me a favor. Eat shite.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:12 pm to
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You made this comment a few times in this thread. So in light of today's announcement...

BUMP





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