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re: 1980 Reagan & Bush debating over how to be more compassionate to undocumented children
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:00 pm to Rakim
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:00 pm to Rakim
And nearly 30 years later illegal immigration is still rampant. Thanks for proving Bush and Reagan's policies failed to resolve the problem.
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:01 pm to gthog61
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Bush was Reagan's biggest long lasting mistake.
basically handed the country right back to the GOPe lightweights.
GHWB was a fricking cipher.
You know what he didn't do?
Invade Iraq for whatever that's worth. Reagan raised taxes 7 times. He ran when our Marines were bombed losing ~280 lives in Lebanon.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:02 pm to ChewyDante
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And nearly 30 years later illegal immigration is still rampant. Thanks for proving Bush and Reagan's policies failed to resolve the problem.
Problem is you can't separate illegals and children. That's your problem and you are going to lose.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:07 pm to Rakim
"All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous"- 1 Corinthians 10:23
Donald Ttrump claims the Bible is his favorite book. Surely he understands the spirit of this verse and what Paul was saying. Laws at their heart, should not be strident, hard-fast rules applied to those with little to no control over a situation they didn't deliberate
If the speed limit is 65, and someone is speeding at 66...just because the law says you should give them a ticket, doesn't mean you should. Sometimes it's better, or more advantageous to let them go and watch for those 'recklessly speeding'.
Donald Ttrump claims the Bible is his favorite book. Surely he understands the spirit of this verse and what Paul was saying. Laws at their heart, should not be strident, hard-fast rules applied to those with little to no control over a situation they didn't deliberate
If the speed limit is 65, and someone is speeding at 66...just because the law says you should give them a ticket, doesn't mean you should. Sometimes it's better, or more advantageous to let them go and watch for those 'recklessly speeding'.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:09 pm to Rakim
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Problem is you can't separate illegals and children.
No, the problem is our inability to secure our border and political leaders who refuse to enforce laws that would do so. And who deliberately subvert efforts to deport those who are here illegally. Our problem is a combination of political actors who do not seek an actual solution and a lack or will from those that do.
You are part of the problem.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:12 pm to Rakim
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not #NeverTrump it's #YoureOnTheClockTrump
Nothing Teump has done in this was wrong. Not one damn thing. Grow up.
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I'm not loyal to Trump but the agenda. Never ever allow yourself to put the politician ahead of the agenda or principles. That's a mistake too many on this board make.
Yet here you are starting a thread that bashes the agenda and policy trying to use Reagan.
Its laughable
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:14 pm to Rakim
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You know what he didn't do?
Invade Iraq for whatever that's worth. Reagan raised taxes 7 times. He ran when our Marines were bombed losing ~280 lives in Lebanon.
Keep outing yourself
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:17 pm to Rakim
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Problem is you can't separate illegals and children. That's your problem and you are going to lose.
With YOUR mindset, the United States has NO borders.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:18 pm to ChewyDante
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No, the problem is our inability to secure our border and political leaders who refuse to enforce laws that would do so. And who deliberately subvert efforts to deport those who are here illegally. Our problem is a combination of political actors who do not seek an actual solution and a lack or will from those that do.
Please good luck rounding kids up that a practically Americans. They been living here almost their entire lives in many cases. Trump could end it now but he's scared. Face that fact. I don't care why he postponed the decision but I believe he hopes Congress can save him. At a minimum these kids will get "temporary work status".
You and your friends are going to lose on this. The parents should get the hell out as far as I'm concerned. I just don't believe you punish a kid for their parents mistake.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:21 pm to Jjdoc
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With YOUR mindset, the United States has NO borders.
I rather militarize the border than build a wall. I want to treat illegals as their government treats Americans. But I really believe in making these kids earn their way. Listen I'm at least reasonable about 8 years of service to earn citizenship.
The left wants them to be full citizens now along with their parents. You question me as a matter debate but I just showed you I'm actually a hawk on the border.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:23 pm to Rakim
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Please good luck rounding kids up that a practically Americans.
You dont really need luck.
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Trump could end it now but he's scared.
He does need to end DACA now. Its unconstitutional.
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You and your friends are going to lose on this. The parents should get the hell out as far as I'm concerned. I just don't believe you punish a kid for their parents mistake.
Then we have no borders. Sorry... you will lose THAT fight
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:27 pm to Jjdoc
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He does need to end DACA now. Its unconstitutional.
Then why is Trump being a big pussy
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:28 pm to Rakim
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rather militarize the border than build a wall. I want to treat illegals as their government treats Americans. But I really believe in making these kids earn their way. Listen I'm at least reasonable about 8 years of service to earn citizenship.
No, you are showing that you are actually an open border guy.
How many years will it be until the next set of a million need the same gift?
Its an open door policy that the left will use if they ever gain power again. The flood gates will be opened and we will get the same spill.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:30 pm to Rakim
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Then why is Trump being a big pussy
Is he? Tell me how he is?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:37 pm to Rakim
So where is the end point of compassion. Should we let all African, Central American and S. American get a free pass illegally into US. We pay the whole fare and coddle them cradle to grave.
I repeat from last night, while Dexter Brankowsomoski in Derkejmia has been waiting for two years to legally immigrate.
The golden goose will dry up at some point you realize and you'll be able to look back on it and say...you know if we would have done this in a planned and humane fashion we would have more than 10% of the population working and a population of 525M in 20 years.
Or do you just like to view the world with rose colored sun glasses and blinders and like to have self gratification by loving your compassion for some and irrelevancy for others?
I repeat from last night, while Dexter Brankowsomoski in Derkejmia has been waiting for two years to legally immigrate.
The golden goose will dry up at some point you realize and you'll be able to look back on it and say...you know if we would have done this in a planned and humane fashion we would have more than 10% of the population working and a population of 525M in 20 years.
Or do you just like to view the world with rose colored sun glasses and blinders and like to have self gratification by loving your compassion for some and irrelevancy for others?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:43 pm to larry289
Throughout the election process, he has been this way. Trump fan he is not.
He is literally a nevertrumper and an establishment kinda guy.
He is seriously telling you so long as a parenr can sneak in with kids, the kids stay and the parents are forced to leave.
That is an open door policy. During times of dem control the borders will be porous and then we will get to pass out amnesty.
He is literally a nevertrumper and an establishment kinda guy.
He is seriously telling you so long as a parenr can sneak in with kids, the kids stay and the parents are forced to leave.
That is an open door policy. During times of dem control the borders will be porous and then we will get to pass out amnesty.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:45 pm to Rakim
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Please good luck rounding kids up that a practically Americans.
I love these new legal arguments... they all tend to be based on bullshite and emotion.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:54 pm to Rakim
H.W. Bush was such a globalist CIA syping punk sell-out to the American people.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:55 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
He most certainly was a globalist who actually worked to curb Reagan
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:58 pm to CptBengal
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practically Americans.
Alright Rakin, congratulations a new descriptive term for correctness.
Illegal alien, illegal immigrant, undocumented people, dreamers and now....wait for it "practically citizens".
I truly hope you do not bring children into your world.
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