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re: 1 straw limit “to save the sea turtles!”

Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:14 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:14 am to
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1) How does a straw thrown away in Ohio enter the ocean to kill a sea turtle? Wouldn’t it go the trash can then to the landfill?
10 rivers are responsible for 90% of the plastic in the ocean, and none of them are in North America, Europe, Australia, or even South America.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27072 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:05 am to
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It has to start somewhere.


So, the U.S. collectively giving up straws will improve the situation in South America and China? This is the load of shite you tree huggers cannot seem to understand... Show me it will make a difference and I might actually consider willingly giving something up but don't feed me the company line of BS and expect me to just like it...

We manage garbage in this country better than most of the world, outside of western Europe, and you want us to give something up? Frick that, fix the rest of the world or bring them to a set standard and lets work from there...
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19060 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:02 am to
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It has to start somewhere.

Same misguided logic that yielded the Paris Accords.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:27 am to
I read your post earlier this morning.

Just left a breakfast meeting here in Nashville where I specifically asked the waitress for not 1, but 2 straws so I could make up the difference for California and Oregon! She busted out laughing!
Posted by Diary Queen
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:55 am to
Why wouldn't anybody swap out straws? I see it as being wasteful... not to save turtles.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:19 pm to
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I agree that the “save the sea turtles” argument in Ohio is silly.

Still, minimizing the amount of plastic in our landfills isn’t a bad thing. Neither is trying to find more biodegradable alternatives for many of the plastic consumer products that inevitably end up in the trash.

I think bans on plastic straws are dumb, but a restaurant asking customers to reuse the ir straws seems reasonable IMO.


This is a perfectly reasonable view. You could also start with grocery stores. Use more paper, and encourage shoppers to bring their own reusable bags. It's not that difficult.

If straws really are an issue, penalizing the poor guy at the restaurant is stupid. Ban the import, manufacture, and sale of plastic straws nationwide. That eliminates the problem without enacting asinine penalities for the little guy.

It wouldn't be the first time the US has removed a product from the market and banned its sale if it was in society's best interest.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33863 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:22 pm to
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It has to start somewhere.


Yes, I'm sure all of those poor people in India and China with a culture of not really caring about their environment are going to just magically follow suit.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94994 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:23 pm to
My question is “How does the number of straws in the trash in North America amount to more than one guy pissing in the ocean considering the amount of plastic trash dumped in Asian rivers?”
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