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Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:08 am
Last year picking at #15 we were able to do a Top 15 Wanted big board before the draft. It came out like this-
Joeckel 2.5
Jarvis Jones 3.7
Fisher 4.1
Dion Jordan 4.8
Shariff Floyd 5.6
Lotulelei 6.0
Ansah 6.7
Lane Johnson 6.9
Milliner 8.1
Mingo 8.4
Ogletree 10.85
Vaccaro 10.9
Rhodes 12.3
Damontre Moore 12.5
Werner 13.9
3 votes for Jesse Williams
2 votes for Sheldon Richardson, Trufant, & Elam
1 vote for Minter, Carradine, Austin, Keenan Allen, & Datone Jones
(If you are reviewing, the number is the cumulative average rank. Vaccaro was the 12th most desired out of all players. When #15 came, Jones, Floyd, and Ogletree were the ones left that ST wanted more than Vacccaro.)

This was just a Who You Want not any mocking trying to guess who might be available. To do the same all the way down to #27 would likely not yield good results. We can accomplish the same thing but do it two steps. First, make a list of the first 15 players you believe will be gone in the draft. After processing and making that list we will be able to work on the pool of the next 12 players that could more reasonably be possible at #27.

So just make a list of the First 15 Gone. Last name only will suffice, no order needed.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:11 am to
here's mine to start-

Clowney
Watkins
Mack
Bridgewater
Robinson
Matthews
Evans
Dennard
Gilbert
Clinton-Dix
Lewan
Manziel
Bortles
Pryor
Barr
Posted by WhoDatTigahsTampa
S.E.LA2WestFL
Member since Oct 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:21 am to
Bortles
Clowney
Robinson
Matthews
Mack
Watkins
Manziel
Evans
Gilbert
Barr
Clinton-Dix
Carr
Lewan
Dennard
Pryor
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:30 am to
Clowney
Mack
Barr
Gilbert
Dennard
Matthews
Robinson
Lewan
Watkins
Evans
Ebron
Bridgewater
Manziel
Bortles
Ha-Ha
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:54 am to
1.Bortles
2.Clowney
3.Watkins
4.Mack
5.Manziel
6.Matthews
7.Carr
8.Evans
9.Dennard
10.Gilbert
11.Beckham
12.Lewan
13.Robinson
14.Pryor
15.Nix

After yesterday, Bridgewater will fall faster than a teenager at Drinking With Lincoln night.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by Throbinhood
Southern LA
Member since Sep 2013
819 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:59 am to
15 who won't be there at 27
Clowney
Robinson
Watkins
Bortles
Bridgewater
Manziel
Mack
Matthews
Gilbert
Barr
Ebron
Ha-Ha
Evans
Lewan
Pryor

Additional 3 who highly wont be there either:
Donald
Dennard
Jernigan
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64300 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:00 am to
Bortles
Watkins
Clowney
Mack
Manziel
Barr
Bridgewater
Matthews
Lewan
Dix
Gilbert
Mosley
Nix
Robinson
Dennard
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9433 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:09 am to
Clowney
Matthews
Robinson
Bridgewater
Bortles
Manziel
Carr
Mack
Barr
Gilbert
Dennard
Evans
Watkins
Pryor
Ha-Ha


3/20 edit- took out Lewan and added HaHa
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:23 pm
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:23 am to
Bridgewater QB
Bortles QB
Manziel QB
Watkins WR
Evans WR
Robinson OT
Matthews OT
Lewan OT
Clowney DE
Nix DT
Mack OLB
Barr OLB
Dennard CB
Gilbert CB
Clinton-Dix S

I don't think Pryor is a lock to go in the top 15, but I do think he'll be gone before we pick.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:25 am
Posted by heytigerfans
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
143 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:33 am to
Bortles
Clowney
Manziel
Bridgewater
Watkins
Mack
Barr
Robinson
Matthews
Pryor
Mosley
Gilbert
Lee
Evans
Donald
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Additional 3 who highly wont be there either:
quote:

I don't think Pryor is a lock to go in the top 15, but I do think he'll be gone before we pick.

That's the point of getting a Top 15. After establishing that we can work on the wish list of a dozen from #16 to 27. Some will be more unlikely (my next ones could be Ebron, Mosley, Donald, Lee). Others will fall into high probability of being available (Fuller, Beckham, Benjamin). This step is to try to reduce the chatter about players that are consensus likely to be gone (unless they trade up).
Posted by 4thandinches
River Ridge
Member since Apr 2012
2395 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:44 am to
Watkins
Mack
Clowney
Robinson
Manziel
Gilbert
Evans
Dennard
Bridgewater
Matthews
Clinton-Dix
Lewan
Bortles
Pryor
Barr
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:11 pm to
I completely get what you are trying to do. I was just explaining why I left Pryor off of my list. IMO, there is a clear top 13-14 and then it gets a little harder to gauge. I think someone will grab a DT due to need bumping Pryor down to top 20.
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

That's the point of getting a Top 15. After establishing that we can work on the wish list of a dozen from #16 to 27. Some will be more unlikely (my next ones could be Ebron, Mosley, Donald, Lee). Others will fall into high probability of being available (Fuller, Beckham, Benjamin). This step is to try to reduce the chatter about players that are consensus likely to be gone (unless they trade up).


No chance of being available:
Bridgewater QB
Bortles QB
Manziel QB
Watkins WR
Evans WR
Robinson OT
Matthews OT
Lewan OT
Clowney DE
Nix DT
Mack OLB
Barr OLB
Dennard CB
Gilbert CB
Clinton-Dix S

Highly unlikely to be available:
Lee WR
Ebron TE
Martin OL
Donald DT
Pryor S

Decent chance to be available at 27:
Carr QB
Beckham WR
Cooks WR
Benjamin WR
Su'a-Filo OG
Ford DE
Ealy DE
Jernigan DT
Hageman DT
Mosley LB
Shazier LB
Verrett CB
Fuller CB





Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:31 pm to
keep'em coming, we got a pretty decent consensus last year with input from 15-20 posters
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:13 pm to


This turned into a good thread last year. Let's keep it going.
Posted by whitesuburban92
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
21 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:30 am to
Clowney DE
Mack LB
Robinson OT
Bortles QB
Dennard CB
Gilbert CB
Watkins WR
Evans WR
Matthews OT
Clinton-Dix S
Lewan OT
Lee WR
Donald DT
Mosley LB
Manziel QB
Posted by lukestar
Parts unknown
Member since Dec 2004
3461 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:52 am to
Bortels
Clowney
Robinson
Matthews
Mack
Mansfield
Bridge water
Watkins
Dix
Lewar
Evans
Gilbert
Ebron
Jenerigan
Dennard
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:00 pm to

Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:07 pm to
Blake Bortles
Greg Robinson
Jadeveon Clowney
Teddy Bridgewater
Sammy Watkins
Zack Martin (this one's for you bro)
Jake Matthews
Johnny Manziel
Khalil Mack
Justin Gilbert
Calvin Pryor
Anthony Barr
Mike Evans
C.J. Mosley
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:59 pm
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