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This was all very predictable: results vs process

Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:31 pm
I've been beating this drum for years since Miles was hired and the irrational hate for Saban began:

This is what you get when you focus on RESULTS and not on PROCESS/DECISION-MAKING.

Yes, Miles won a championship 2 seasons ago. It was great, I loved it. But any objective evaluation of the 2007 season clearly showed just how much luck played as a factor (admittedly, luck is always needed to win the MNC). Anyone with eyes has seen the COUNTLESS AND CONTINUAL terrible decisions/deer in the headlight from Miles over on the sidline from DAY ONE.

You don't build programs by "going for the win", by calling plays of dubious potential outcome, nor from being the "mad hatter". You build programs based on the construction of rigorous processes and decisions practiced and painstakingly honed day in and day out.

Just like with successful investing, rational processes, inputs and decisions over time will win out over shoot-from-the-hip, range of the moment "play to win" nonsense. Football involves a lot of luck and chance which can, on any given Saturday, overshadow these processes. But in the long run, the numbers don't lie - the disciplined and the intelligent will win out over the rest. Great recruiting and great talent will certainly win 80% of the battle for you. But brains AND brawn will easily beat just brawn over the long run.

I can't think of two people who more typify the 2 different approaches than Miles and Saban. This is why you understand just how lucky you were when you squeak out improbable victory after improbable victory. And this is also why you don't read too much into a random loss to ULM. And most importantly - this is why you don't reward luck with fat contracts when it's crystal clear that the decision-making is abysmal.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:32 pm to
exactly correct
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:33 pm to
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This is what you get when you focus on RESULTS and not on PROCESS/DECISION-MAKING.


I kige this.

"A win is a win" is perhaps the stupidest mantra in all of college football.
Posted by tiger910
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1631 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:34 pm to
Beginning to believe that you're right.

Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:40 pm to
In all honesty, after yesterday, I think maybe there is a chance that Miles suffers debilitating panic attacks in these situations. He was literally incoherent during the on-field interview.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42870 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:51 pm to
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Beginning to believe that you're right.

He's been right all along.
Posted by Tigahs
Member since Jan 2004
22836 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to
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And most importantly - this is why you don't reward luck with fat contracts when it's crystal clear that the decision-making is abysmal.



Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24444 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:56 pm to
Not only was he incoherent, I think he called the sideline reporter babe "sir"
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:02 pm to
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Not only was he incoherent, I think he called the sideline reporter babe "sir"


Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:17 pm to
Well, Jersey Tiger , I couldn't have said it better myself. Every point that you made was spot on and a great parallel to investing. Shooting from the hip gets us just what we got yesterday.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28732 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:19 pm to
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He was literally incoherent during the on-field interview.


Hell even 45 minutes AFTERWARD in his interview with Jordy he was incoherent. Jordy had to finish damn near every sentence. Miles just kept going "we um uh wanted to....uhh"
Posted by Titan
Member since Apr 2008
2476 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:20 pm to
correct assessment sir
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

This is what you get when you focus on RESULTS and not on PROCESS/DECISION-MAKING.


Well stated.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:21 pm to
It's nothing personal against the man, it's just frustrating that people insist on focusing on outcome.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451997 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

In all honesty, after yesterday, I think maybe there is a chance that Miles suffers debilitating panic attacks in these situations. He was literally incoherent during the on-field interview.

i thought about this also. he may pull a butch davis and kind of "lose it"

he was completely off his rocker after the game last ngiht
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:24 pm to
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he was completely off his rocker after the game last ngiht


People should go back and watch the video. Something was wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451997 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:27 pm to
the one to tracy RIGHT after the game?

the one where he started 4-5 thoughts, stopped mid-sentence, and then started another one?

this is how i described that one this morning

quote:

his public face is that of a more dumb george bush. his comments to tracy after the game last night were mind-numbingly stupid to the point where i thought he was playing a joke on me. it was as if reality ceased, and i entered into a bad acid world where miles conroled my thoughts
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24444 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:12 pm to
It also looked like the state trooper had to tell Miles that the game was over.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75856 posts
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:15 pm to
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his public face is that of a more dumb george bush. his comments to tracy after the game last night were mind-numbingly stupid to the point where i thought he was playing a joke on me. it was as if reality ceased, and i entered into a bad acid world where miles conroled my thoughts


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