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re: Woman's irrational fear of snakes means hospital owes her money
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:21 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:21 pm to tigerfoot
I understand everything you said, but the facility still has a responsibility to keep the people inside their facility safe. It's responsibility doesn't just stop at the medical related.
Just like if a ceiling panel falls down and knocks someone out, it doesn't have to have happened multiple times before for the facility to be held responsible. It has a responsibility to keep the people inside safe.
All in all, the lady sounds like she overreacted and hurt herself in doing so. But one thing I've learned is to not jump to conclusions about how everything actually played out, like the hot McDonalds coffee story.
Just like if a ceiling panel falls down and knocks someone out, it doesn't have to have happened multiple times before for the facility to be held responsible. It has a responsibility to keep the people inside safe.
All in all, the lady sounds like she overreacted and hurt herself in doing so. But one thing I've learned is to not jump to conclusions about how everything actually played out, like the hot McDonalds coffee story.
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:22 pm to AlxTgr
Are you taking garter? You can have Texas Rat Snake ftw, Alx.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:24 pm to tigerfoot
Whenever your accident injures another person, yes someone should be held responsible.
Your world: I reach down to grab something while driving, hit the car next to me, car next to me hits school bus full of nuns, 50 nuns die in a terrible fire. I'm not responsible because it was an accident. Everyone goes home happy.
Your world: I reach down to grab something while driving, hit the car next to me, car next to me hits school bus full of nuns, 50 nuns die in a terrible fire. I'm not responsible because it was an accident. Everyone goes home happy.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:25 pm to boom roasted
quote:
hot McDonald's coffee story
hold up now, you buy that? People are aware, or even do not demand, that their coffee be hot? And when you spill it on yourself, it is the seller's fault that you got burned?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:27 pm to Mung
With the coffee story, that McDonalds location had received numerous complaints over a series of weeks that their coffee was extremely hot (like 20 degree hotter than it should be). They never did anything about it. Finally, woman spills coffee on her lady parts and it burns the frick out of her (like 2nd and 3rd degree burns). Lower level court gives her millions. Appeals court knocks it down to a couple hundred K.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:39 pm to boom roasted
quote:
ceiling panel falls down and knocks someone out, it doesn't have to have happened multiple times before for the facility to be held responsible. It has a responsibility to keep the people inside safe
Ceiling panels often squirm around and get places you cant predict.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:41 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
Ceiling panels often squirm around and get places you cant predict.
Good one. You win.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:42 pm to boom roasted
I'm thinking that jury must have been chock full of old codgers on Social Security and Medicare, who are prone to spill on themselves, and who spend 3 hours each morning drinking senior discount coffee with unlimited refills while complaining about how much the government wastes on freeloaders.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:43 pm to boom roasted
Unless there is a large chunk of the story missing that sheds a lot more blame towards the hospital, this just sounds like a money grab.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:44 pm to chief420
quote:
Unless there is a large chunk of the story missing that sheds a lot more blame towards the hospital, this just sounds like a money grab.
I agree. I was objecting to people saying the hospital shouldn't be responsible because "shite happens."
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:45 pm to boom roasted
quote:
Your world: I reach down to grab something while driving, hit the car next to me, car next to me hits school bus full of nuns, 50 nuns die in a terrible fire. I'm not responsible because it was an accident
Would a reasonable person think that? We are talking apples and watermelons.
Lets go with your accident scenario. Lets say one of those nuns lives, and she is pissed. She breaks into your house in the middle of the night to stab you with a crucifix. You wake up, run thru the door because you are scared on nuns and clowns. So you sue your general contractor for the damage to your door.
You like blame, blame the snake. Or the nun.
Snakes and nuns don't have good coverage, unlike contractors and hospitals.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:47 pm to boom roasted
quote:
I was objecting to people saying the hospital shouldn't be responsible because "shite happens."
as stated earlier, hospital has a snake in it, shite happens.
Hospital lets a non credentialed MD on staff and he fricks up your surgery. Not shite happens.
There are things you can see and control, a sneaky snake going dancing in your gauze is not really one of them.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 1:54 pm to boom roasted
it's not really a "shite happens" argument. More like, what could the hospital have done to prevent the accident? Can they vermin-proof every entrance to the building? How much would that cost? How likely is it that the odd snake that gets in is going to run into an insane snake-fearer? I just view this as an extrememly rare situation, that no one could really prevent. Your crash scenario is all a result of actual negligence by the driver. Here the hospital did not do anything wrong.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:11 pm to boom roasted
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hospital shouldn't be responsible because
the hospital did not cause this womans "injuries"
her actions caused the injury
If a patients family memeber decides to jump down the stairwell instead of walking down like a reasonable person and they injure thier ankle should the hosptial be responsible for the person's actions causing the injury?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:17 pm to boom roasted
quote:What in the flying frick does any of this have to do with the facts alleged in the suit?
understand everything you said, but the facility still has a responsibility to keep the people inside their facility safe. It's responsibility doesn't just stop at the medical related. Just like if a ceiling panel falls down and knocks someone out, it doesn't have to have happened multiple times before for the facility to be held responsible. It has a responsibility to keep the people inside safe.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:21 pm to AlxTgr
Lawyered
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:24 pm to KingRanch
What does that even mean?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:26 pm to AlxTgr
It's from a popular tv show. Also known as a "pop culture" reference.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:36 pm to AlxTgr
dammit i go on the road for a day and miss all the fun! 
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