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re: Where can I find an Original 1880s Colt

Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:15 pm to
Do it.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:25 pm to
These pictures will kick things off...

Mid-2nd Generation SAA, 7 1/2" barrel, original stagecoach box w/ paperwork:


3rd Gen engraved nickel Sheriff's model .44-40 w/ ivory stocks:



3rd Generation New Frontier SAA, 4 3/4" barrel, .44-40 caliber:
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:26 pm
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:28 pm to


Those nickel rigs are soooooooo fine
Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:33 pm to
My uncle has on exactly like this except in as good of condition. One of the finest weapons I've ever fired




This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:34 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:35 pm to
That sound a brand new SAA makes when you pull the hammer back...


Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:35 pm to
3rd Gen SAA 4 3/4" barrel, .44 Special:



1st Generation Bisley SAA, 7 1/5" barrel, .45 Colt:



Early 2nd Gen nickel SAA 5 1/2" barrel, .45 Colt with correct black box:


Posted by Vood
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:36 pm to
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Unless your father is a collector I would probably not spend the money on a quality 1st Gen SAA but instead focus in on the later 2nd and 3rd Gen guns from the 1950's til today.

I know a little about Colt single actions. What is you approximate budget?


He is not a collector but he did have an 1st Gen SSA he had to sell to make ends meet while growing up. I don't know what I am going to buy or my budget until I see the pistol I am going to buy.

About the only think I know for sure is his had bone grips so I think I am going to try and get one of those.

Edit- I dont know 100% sure it was a 1st Gen, but it was black powder.

This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:38 pm
Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:37 pm to
Everyone should experience a cocking a SAA that hasn't been fired.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:39 pm to
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he did have an 1st Gen SSA he had to sell to make ends meet


Damn that hurts

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About the only think I know for sure is his had bone grips


You can get aftermarket ones if you can't find a gun with them

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I dont know 100% sure it was a 1st Gen, but it was black powder.


I'm no colt expert, but I don't think 2nd gen colts were made until the 40's, so his was almost certainly 1st gen.
Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

He is not a collector but he did have an 1st Gen SSA he had to sell to make ends meet while growing up. I don't know what I am going to buy or my budget until I see the pistol I am going to buy.

About the only think I know for sure is his had bone grips so I think I am going to try and get one of those.

Edit- I dont know 100% sure it was a 1st Gen, but it was black powder.



If it was black powder only then it was an early 1st Gen gun, or possibly a later 1st Gen that he was shooting lower pressure black powder in to avoid stressing the gun.

1st Gen guns are highly desirable, and have a mystique that the later guns cannot match (the only guns that even come close are the early black box 2nd Gen guns from the 1950's IMO). Consequently, 1st Gen Single Action Armies command a premium, with prices escalating very quickly for well preserved original examples.

Bone grips could possibly be provided by an aftermarket supplier, although bone isn't really all that common for grips. Could they have been stag / antler?
Posted by Vood
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:43 pm to
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Bone grips could possibly be provided by an aftermarket supplier, although bone isn't really all that common for grips. Could they have been stag / antler?


You have a point, they were white and since I don't know a whole lot about this stuff they could have been made of stag or antler. In my mind they were stark white but that was many moons ago.

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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:44 pm to
Please don't say they were ivory
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:44 pm to
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I'm no colt expert, but I don't think 2nd gen colts were made until the 40's, so his was almost certainly 1st gen.



You are correct. 2nd Gen production ran from 1956 - 1974.

When Colt stopped producing the SAA in 1941 they declared that the gun was gone forever. The popularity of western movies and Ruger's single actions in the 1950's changed their minds.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Vood
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:45 pm to
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Please don't say they were ivory


Like I said, I cannot say exactly what they were.

Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:45 pm to
Sounds like they were ivory.
Posted by bapple
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:46 pm to
Holy crap. Too much awesomeness in one thread.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:47 pm to
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When Colt stopped producing the SAA in 1941 they declared that the gun was gone forever


Ahh I remember reading that once. Appreciate the info

Not exactly my cup of tea, but

Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:48 pm to
Wish I could find stag grips for my 19.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:49 pm to
Having to sell a first gen black powder SAA with ivory grips would be so horribly painful.

Best of luck finding another one though. I'm sure your old man would be thrilled to have one.
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