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re: Whats the better handgun

Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2103 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:07 am to
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Work on posting even less.
How about you just quit reading my posts and stay in the dark. Debating a subject is how you get to the best answer. I like to hear everyone's opinion, and I put thought into each opinion. I also like to challenge opinions, so that ALL available information and opinions are presented. Apparently this is not the case with you.
Posted by Nwlasaint
Member since Jul 2013
548 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:12 am to
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I will take 7 rounds of 9mm over fewer rounds in 45.


BRB my xds .45 has 7+1
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:12 am to
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I like to hear everyone's opinion


and then make snarky condescending remarks.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2103 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:24 am to
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and then make snarky condescending remarks.
Revert back to my first post on this topic. Where exactly am I being condescending? I simply asked that Bapple expand on his theory. He then made his remark accusing me of trolling, and so it began...
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:05 am to
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But ammo is quite expensive and recoil is a bit more stout


The 10 mm hype is crazy IMO. I've shot a lot of different loads thru my g20 sf last week and all were VERY manageable. My .45 is snappier than the 10mm IMO. I was shooting TN Cartridge co 180 gr reloads, underwood 180gr XTP, and underwood 200gr XTP and they were all very very manageable. If you are an experienced shooter you can handle the 10mm. Something tells me the FBI's choice of gun had something to do with the 10mm being phased out.

For a novice shooter a 9mm is always a great option. Low recoil and it is an effective round. Plus you can train on it a little cheaper than the .45 or 10mm
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 10:10 am
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:35 am to
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and then make snarky condescending remarks


I disagree and think we all need to have thicker skin. Buck_Rogers obviously knows what he is talking about and I learn a great deal from his postings. I also went back and looked through all of his old posts and he is telling the truth in that he only discusses subjects he is an expert on. He knows his ballistics and his weapons.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12225 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:37 am to
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I've shot a lot of different loads thru my g20 sf last week and all were VERY manageable.


I will only say this once so pay close attention...

I shot a Glock 20 also and the 10mm is a badass round.

Man, I felt like I was at AA getting that off my chest... I can't believe I shot a Glock.

The recoil was manageable and it was pretty awesome hearing those rounds crack downrange like a rifle round. The owner let me shoot some Hornady XTPs and they were HOT.

I really want a Kimber Eclipse 10mm down the round. That round is pretty potent.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12225 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:38 am to
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I disagree and think we all need to have thicker skin.


I don't like having conversations with an a-hole. Plain and simple.

I can always learn new things but to be talked down to is bullshite. If I don't want to put up with it, I won't talk to him. Easy as that.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:18 am to
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I don't like having conversations with an a-hole. Plain and simple.

I can always learn new things but to be talked down to is bullshite. If I don't want to put up with it, I won't talk to him. Easy as that.


I understand that as many people on this very board have talk down to me, the .243 debate as an example. I don't get upset by it I just realize that is the way many people communicate on the internet. Many of them, even though they were a-holes, were a wealth of information and to ignore them would have resulted in me cheating myself out of knowledge so I sucked it up and listened. I don't care what anyone says to me on here as it is just a digital piece of paper.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12225 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:28 am to
Solid point...

Well spoken.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2103 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:30 am to
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If I don't want to put up with it, I won't talk to him.
What kind of an answer is this? I guess because I challenge a question with facts and get people to think, that makes me an a-hole? Who in the hell are you, that you think you can make bogus statements and not have any means to back them up, other than pulling little bits of information that suits your needs. Everything I post, I can back up. You on the other hand resort to name calling like a 14 year old girl.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:32 am to
Buck rules, Bapple drools...
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:34 am to
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What kind of an answer is this? I guess because I challenge a question with facts and get people to think, that makes me an a-hole? Who in the hell are you, that you think you can make bogus statements and not have any means to back them up, other than pulling little bits of information that suits your needs. Everything I post, I can back up. You on the other hand resort to name calling like a 14 year old girl.

I think your a-hole vibe came through in the primers for submachine gun thread. No one is saying you're wrong. Just that you present your information in a condescending tone.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:38 am to
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for home protection as well as traveling?


I think 357sig shoots through car doors well.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:39 am to
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I think your a-hole vibe came through in the primers for submachine gun thread. No one is saying you're wrong. Just that you present your information in a condescending tone.
I looked for this and could not find it. I think many here are reaching or just butthurt.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33716 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:40 am to
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BRB my xds .45 has 7+1


Now check the capacity of the 9mm version.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:41 am to
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I looked for this and could not find it. I think many here are reaching or just butthurt.

Maybe. Just the tone I got in the other thread.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:44 am to
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Maybe. Just the tone I got in the other thread.
Understood.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:54 am to
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Everything I post, I can back up.


quote:

The Glock's firing system is a flaw


Please back that up with something other than your opinion. Thanks in advance.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2103 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Please back that up with something other than your opinion. Thanks in advance.
Compared to a 1911's firing system, it is a flaw. In a 1911 firing system, you can have a crisp 4-5 pound trigger pull with a 20+ pound hammer spring. With a striker fired system like the Glock, if you want a 5 pound trigger pull, then you can only have a 5 pound spring pushing that firing pin. In other words, your desired trigger pull weight also has an adverse effect on how hard your firing pin will strike the primer. So, unless you want a 20 pound trigger pull on a Glock, you will never reach the full reliability of a 1911's firing system.
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