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re: Trail Camera ban on LA WMA's

Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:53 pm to
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They definitely help. But its a fraction of the amount of advantages that people fortunate enough to have access to hunt private land have available to them.



I'm coming at it from the angle of hunters having an advantage over other hunters and driving down game numbers.

Not the deer being at a disadvantage.
Idgaf about a deers rights. And they probably don't care either if the arrow sticking in their chest is from a stickbow fair chase ground hunter or a cornpile treestand hunter. They are more concerned with their lungs not working.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:58 pm to
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I'm coming at it from the angle of hunters having an advantage over other hunters and driving down game numbers.



I don't understand considering you other posts in this thread about "all the same rules" and "handicaps"
Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Salmon




Logic and comprehension can be hard. Maybe take a nap and try again?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:06 pm to
Hell I'm even down to outlaw flashlights except for game recovery. frick all of it. No cameras. No feeders. No rangefinders. No GPS. No smart phones. No nothing. Fat people who are scared of the dark and can't navigate shouldn't get any help from anything.
Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:09 pm to
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Hell I'm even down to outlaw flashlights except for game recovery. frick all of it. No cameras. No feeders. No rangefinders. No GPS. No smart phones. No nothing. Fat people who are scared of the dark and can't navigate shouldn't get any help from anything.



Just as long as your talking about public land for most of that, I am down. I am so down.

MHGA!
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:16 pm to
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driving down game numbers.


At least where I hunt, my cameras proved that statement is untrue. I had plenty of game on camera. It was just almost 100% night time photos after the first few days of October once there was people walking in the woods on a daily basis. Had some day time pics for a few days at the beginning of January during the rut, but everything else was at night.

Before I had cameras, I assumed there just wasn't many deer because of how few I would see while hunting. But after running cameras, I realized there's plenty of deer. They just go nocturnal once the hunting pressure starts.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Just as long as your talking about public land


Public land, country wide. No accommodations for fat, lazy, stupid or scared people.

But, I would like to see people get a little less ghay about deer hunting in general, private land included. frick a trail camera. Great as a security tool but it makes deer hunting too damned easy.

It also creates this super weird dynamic of people thinking they have a right to a deer they took a picture of. Makes people name deer. Kill a buck, and someone will blow it off because they've had pictures of it all year, like that means something.

Cameras suck the worst out of everything. Just wait till drones with thermals are cheap and readily available. That's going to gheey it up even more.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:26 pm to
ban corn piles
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Logic and comprehension can be hard. Maybe take a nap and try again?


ah ok

You:

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Everyone has the same rules. What you do within those boundaries is up to you.


also you:

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I'm coming at it from the angle of hunters having an advantage over other hunters and driving down game numbers.


"logic"
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:33 pm to
Y'all want to ban everything except the one thing that gives hunter the biggest advantage for killing deer

the rifle
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:38 pm to
Correct, because I like using a rifle. I don't like trail cameras, e bikes, corn piles or feeders.

We've been using rifles since the 1700's. Not exactly the same thing as cell phone cameras or electric bikes.
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:38 pm to
Ban scopes. Most of these “hunters” wouldn’t fill a single tag without a 3k scope.

^ just talking shite fwiw, no offense.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Correct, because I like using a rifle. I don't like trail cameras, e bikes, corn piles or fe


I don't like rifles or feeders or ebikes.

So I don't use them.

I don't think they should be banned.

Funny how that works.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:43 pm to
Well I suppose I lack the altruistic gene.

I don't seriously want legislation to outlaw this stuff. I want people to quit making deer hunting lame.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:51 pm to
Me too

I get excited when I get a pic on camera.

It makes hunting more fun to me.
Posted by WillFerrellisking
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 6:18 pm to
We have different definitions of fun.

Going out on public (not talking private) finding and reading sign and setting up on sign you found with zero help from outside technology or the aid of bait and shooting a deer, any deer that you beat on his own turf just makes it all worth while! The surprise of not knowing makes hunting fun to me again.

It’s boring as all hell knowing each deer walking thru an area, no surprise, no sense of accomplishment when you let technology do the work for you to tell you the time they are walking. Just my opinion for public lands.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 6:35 pm to
Not even remotely how it works on public, but ok

And if you don’t want to use cameras, don’t use cameras

I don’t find rifle hunting fun, so I don’t rifle hunt

I’m not screaming about ending rifle season
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:08 pm to
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It’s boring as all hell knowing each deer walking thru an area, no surprise, no sense of accomplishment when you let technology do the work for you to tell you the time they are walking. Just my opinion for public lands.



They also give people with more disposable income an advantage over other hunters on public land.
Of course this is true with every piece of hunting aid be it bows, tree stands, e-bikes, ect. But its yet one more thing to buy that you may or may not be able to afford. Someone with $3,000 of cameras has a lot more eyes in the woods than someone with $300 of cameras.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:16 pm to
The retired guy gets to hunt all he wants.

I get to hunt Saturday mornings.

Should we limit hunters hunting time so everyone has equal opportunity?

Posted by Turnblad85
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:32 pm to
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Should we limit hunters hunting time so everyone has equal opportunity?




I've always been a proponent of a lottery or opportunity limits on public lands.


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I get to hunt Saturday mornings.

Lucky, The guy with 2 businesses and 12 childeren only gets to hunt one weekend a year. What kind of hunting aids should we start allowing so he has a better chance of killin?
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