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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:22 pm to AlxTgr
My point here is he knowingly shouldered a fire arm and pulled the trigger not knowing 100% what he was shooting. He didn't trip and fall and accidently discharge his firearm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:29 pm to jorconalx
right, but he lacked the requisite intent to kill a human necessay for criminal culpability.
not like he shot into a crowd of people. what if you fired your rifle into the air, and the bullet came down and killed someone. Criminal or not?
not like he shot into a crowd of people. what if you fired your rifle into the air, and the bullet came down and killed someone. Criminal or not?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:31 pm to Mung
When stuff like that happens during New Years do they investigate that criminally? Serious question idk
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:31 pm to jorconalx
It may come down to how much the family pursues it. Most people get killed by someone they know. So charges aren't pursued.
I don't really know, just an observation.
Maybe if the shooter didn't have hunters safety negligence could be proved. Even though he was clearly negligent. But someone running a red light is also negligent but no impairment normally no charge as Alx said.
I don't really know, just an observation.
Maybe if the shooter didn't have hunters safety negligence could be proved. Even though he was clearly negligent. But someone running a red light is also negligent but no impairment normally no charge as Alx said.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:47 pm to jorconalx
quote:He thought he knew.
My point here is he knowingly shouldered a fire arm and pulled the trigger not knowing 100% what he was shooting.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:56 pm to Mung
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what if you fired your rifle into the air, and the bullet came down and killed someone. Criminal or not?
That is criminal
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:00 pm to AlxTgr
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He thought he knew
I have a problem with this bc he obviously didn't
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:01 pm to beHop
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So so so stupid. HOW???? One of the first rules of thumb is to make sure of your target and what us beyond your target.
Jackasses using their scopes to spot game while having a round in the chamber and finger on the trigger.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:12 pm to jorconalx
How is it different than someone pulling out in front of another vehicle on the highway because "he thought he knew" it was clear and causing a fatal accident? It happens all the time and it's negligent, not criminal activity. If impaired, that's different.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:14 pm to MitchMartin
No different.
How often is there a conviction in that case?
How often is there a conviction in that case?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:16 pm to aVatiger
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How does one shoot and kill another hunter thinking he is a deer. I truly have no concept of how this happens.
Ill bet alcohol played a part in this.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:17 pm to Nodust
So my earlier question stands. Is this strictly a civil matter?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:19 pm to jorconalx
I don't know. It just depends on what the prosecutor wants to pursue maybe. If the victims family pushes maybe something could happen.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:20 pm to mikeytig
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Ill bet alcohol played a part in this
It's my understanding that there was no toxicology done on the victim or the shooter
Hey alx and mung why was this guy charged?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:36 pm to jorconalx
Could not tell you. I could have asked Chris Hazel this morning when he was in my office, but it's too late now. 
Edited to add: my guess, and it's nothing better than that, is
Edited to add: my guess, and it's nothing better than that, is
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while being recklessly handled
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:38 pm to jorconalx
a. b/c he's black
b. different sort of negligence. one guy is legitmately hunting deer and made a mistake. the other is playing with a loaded handgun in the presence of another kid when the gun goes off.
also can't rule out that cops thought he may have intentionally done it, but couldn't prove it so came up with only charge that would stick.
b. different sort of negligence. one guy is legitmately hunting deer and made a mistake. the other is playing with a loaded handgun in the presence of another kid when the gun goes off.
also can't rule out that cops thought he may have intentionally done it, but couldn't prove it so came up with only charge that would stick.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:40 pm to AlxTgr
I'm not being a jackass. I am sincerely curious. I don't think the kid should do life in prison, but actions have consequences. My 12 yr old and I were sitting in the deer stand Sat. morning talking about being 100% certain of what you shoot prob. about the time this happened.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:45 pm to Mung
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also can't rule out that cops thought he may have intentionally done it, but couldn't prove it so came up with only charge that would stick.
Note to self, if i want to off somebody take them deer hunting...
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:46 pm to jorconalx
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12 yr old and I were sitting in the deer stand Sat. morning talking about being 100% certain of what you shoot
willing to bet the shooter had similar teaching. I mean, you have to go thru hunter's ed now to even get a license. they give that lesson over and over.
i bet you will teach him not to speed and not to text while driving when he is 16. Not every lesson is obeyed, sometimes with tragic consequences.
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