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re: Texas lowers trout limits to 3……

Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8723 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:45 pm to
a white super spook junior blown in the air, in 18 inches of water, is worth the days fishing
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172265 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 9:26 pm to
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The small bag compared to Louisiana takes getting used to but the trout are consistently bigger. An 18” trout produces two absolute slabs of meat. You’d be insane to pay a guide for a bag of 3 but 6 slab filets is a nice day for a guy putting around in his boat or on the roadside.

Well, I caught a 3 bag limit of trout on the roadside on my first trip to the coast this summer. Not a bad day.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2175 posts
Posted on 6/8/24 at 3:52 am to
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A study by Southwick Tackle from 1996 - 2016 of 14 random states found a decrease in sells of about 30% over 20 years


A study ending in 2016?

They’d have drastically different results if the study was done now.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1308 posts
Posted on 6/8/24 at 2:05 pm to
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I am for doing something that reduces pressure on the fish and the bays in general so we can get close to having sustainable fishery again.


going from 5 to 3 trout will have exactly zero impact on the number of fish produced the following year in Texas.
Mother Nature and commercial fishing are the only real limiting factors when it comes to sea trout.
Rec anglers have no effect on population.
WL&F know this but they have to justify their jobs.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5103 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 8:58 pm to
there's the laugh I needed today.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28291 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 9:20 pm to
Maybe the population growth of South Texas has created more fisherman? Metro Houston was 2.3 million in 1990 was 2.9 million people today its over 6.8 million people and growing.

Brazoria County from 1990 to 2024 went from 192k to 388k people.
Victoria County from 1990 to 2024 went from 74k to 91k people.
Cameron County from 1990 to 2024 went from 261k to 425k people.

The Texas fishery can't sustain these massive population growths without having creel limits lowered.
Posted by ThisisAggieland
Little Rock, AR
Member since Sep 2022
1771 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:11 pm to
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going from 5 to 3 trout will have exactly zero impact on the number of fish produced the following year in Texas.


No? You may think it's miniscule but it really does help keep the fish population at a manageable number. We do not need any more environmental "problems" than we already have.

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Maybe the population growth of South Texas has created more fisherman? Metro Houston was 2.3 million in 1990 was 2.9 million people today its over 6.8 million people and growing.

Brazoria County from 1990 to 2024 went from 192k to 388k people.
Victoria County from 1990 to 2024 went from 74k to 91k people.
Cameron County from 1990 to 2024 went from 261k to 425k people.

The Texas fishery can't sustain these massive population growths without having creel limits lowered.


Basic supply and demand.

More people = more demand for hunting trout - i'm not saying it's the only factor, but this obviously had something to do with the state scaling it from 5 to 3.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:09 am to
Waterfowl regulations have already made duck and goose hunting, at least quality duck and goose hunting, beyond the wallet of most people who would be interested. Fishing is not far behind. Its not going to get any better....low limits and poor quality access to the outdoors is driving people away in droves and the sells of licenses backs up the dwindling numbers. Hunting and fishing is on the decline and there is no doubt of it. I know it seems that fewer people hunting and fishing means more opportunities for those who do hunt and fish but the loss of revenue and more importantly public support for hunting and fishing means both will suffer in quality opportunities more and more.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:11 am to
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The guides in Texas drove the limit change. I don’t quite understand why though.


I don't know if guides drove the reduction or not but I suspect they were involved and for simple reasons...it is far easier to catch 3 per client than 5 per. At least 40% easier.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:19 am to
Catch and release fishing is not as advertised. Almost universally the data suggests that even when done to perfection there is somewhere in the neighborhood of 15% mortality. Thats under ideal conditions and again, done to perfection. The real world data suggests somewhere in the neighborhood of 40% mortality rate. Thats for all species. It is far higher, for example, for fish caught on light tackle in warm water or fish caught in deeper water...snapper and grouper etc. Tournament fish suffer very high mortality rates when transported to a weigh in and released. Lower bag limits may drive down interest in fishing but that is not a good thing because the fewer people fishing the less money and public support there is for fishing.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32826 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:13 pm to
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In LA, if they want to do something to help the redfish, they should start with making bow fishing for redfish illegal
Yeah fix the hang nail when the declining habitat is the cancer, stroke, heart attack and dementia.
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