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re: Teach me about owning a firearm

Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4157 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:12 pm to
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go to an indoor range, sit down and listen. Pistols go "bang", rifles (and shotguns) go "BOOM". Especially the short-barreled AR "pistols" in 556 etc.
This is true. Now go look at the targets for those people shooting pistols and those people shooting rifles. One has more holes. Being deaf but putting holes in bad guys is better than hearing yourself get raped and murdered.
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Then think about rifle rds going through walls, what's behind some of those? Another bedroom?
Your 9mm is going to go through more walls than my 5.56.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10201 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:00 pm to
A .223 round will go through every wall in your house plus it’s kind of unwieldy.

I have always read “experts” stating short shotguns or handguns that you can actually handle are the best choice.

No, if I load a weapon, it’s loaded.

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28622 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 3:02 pm to
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A .223 round will go through every wall in your house plus it’s kind of unwieldy.


More wrong, you could not possibly be.

Please do the test and show all of us how a .223 will go right through your entire house, like a laser beam.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23465 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 4:13 pm to
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o to an indoor range, sit down and listen. Pistols go "bang", rifles (and shotguns) go "BOOM". Especially the short-barreled AR "pistols" in 556 etc.

This is true. Now go look at the targets for those people shooting pistols and those people shooting rifles. One has more holes. Being deaf but putting holes in bad guys is better than hearing yourself get raped and murdered.
Fine, everything is great if you hit on the first shot or 2. Let's see how accurate you are at 3am out of a dead sleep, with someone threatening inside your room in the dark.

You personally can use whatever you want; I want to be able to follow up and make sure I got them.

Also, your situation may be different, but I don't have a bunch of wide-open spaces in my house. Got pretty small bedrooms, and a tight hallway that doesn't let more than 2 men stand shoulder-to-shoulder. With doorways and angles. Somebody easily can jump and wrestle in that, from around a corner. They get ahold of the rifle/shotgun barrel and pin it, and things are going to be fricked up bad.
With a handgun, I have WAY more chance to be able to turn away, and then angle and lever the muzzle into the attacker.

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28622 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 4:49 pm to
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Somebody easily can jump and wrestle in that, from around a corner. They get ahold of the rifle/shotgun barrel and pin it, and things are going to be fricked up bad.
With a handgun, I have WAY more chance to be able to turn away, and then angle and lever the muzzle into the attacker.


They can also just as easily spin it around and cause you to shoot yourself with that exact scenario.

You do you but a pistol is 100% not the best home defense weapon.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10201 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:11 pm to
I stand corrected if

You use the right load, but it appears no matter what you use, it’s best not to miss if you don’t want it going thru interior walls, which are the walls I was referring to.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23465 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 9:54 pm to
bbvdd, I'm not here to fight with you. We all have the right to defend ourselves, and I think we can agree on something- we'd each take a 22lr instead of a stick, if that's all we can lay hands on.

As I said, my house is laid out in such a way that I can get pinned quickly in a hallway. As such, I would prefer a pistol due to that. They're not "just as easily spin it around and cause you to shoot yourself", because my stance will be different than with a long gun. I can sweep those blind areas without having to stick the muzzle into them with a pistol, there's a spot I can't with a long gun.

Now, just for clarification, this is responding to an OP who is new to guns.

What I might ACTUALLY use is different than what I might recommend to someone unfamiliar with them, because I might be able to handle and use something different. I'm not going to recommend a Shockwave with an Opsol adapter loaded up with 8 minishells of buckshot or slugs, or a AR pistol with a brace.

But I wouldn't be afraid of just having a 5906 either, and using it to whack the frick out of someone lunging at me.

Anything's better than nothing, and most things will do in a pinch.
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