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re: Talk to me about buying gun parts during the assault weapons ban era

Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:10 pm to
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I've never even seen an atf agent.

That's because they're masters of disguise.
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Biden has already stated that wouldn’t be the case this time. He wants millions of felons overnight

I don't think he gets that through, though. We had a huge buying surge, and that was before the election was on people's minds. I know several Democrat voters who bought guns during the Covid/riots rush.

We know Beto and the Squad wants to come down heavy, but I don't think they carry any serious clout.

I think we get some sort of buying ban, but there are several layers they'd have to go through to go after the public. I mean, if you have an AR pistol with a brace and a 10 inch barrel, it might get dicey. I THINK, if you have a rifle (a traditionally defined rifle, with the correct barrel length and overall length), you're probably going to be ok. Mags, it might get interesting. But I don't know an AR owner with a small mag, you're talking about just about everyone who owns one.

Not sure how the Senate and the Supreme Court would view a complete assault on US gun owners.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 7:43 am to
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I doubt quoting the constitution in federal court would get you off.


Quoting the constitution gets me off whether I’m in federal court or laying in bed.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 7:44 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:24 pm to
Bapple, I've got a question for you.

Judging from the avatar and your posts, you're a 1911/pistol guy, so you might know the answer to this...

Corrosive surplus ammo, not for rifle, but specifically for pistol.
Talking about 7.62 Tokarev, and 9mm Largo, to be shot from a Tokarev and a Star Super, respectively.

The guns essentially are a Browning/1911 design, and take down similarly to a 1911. Small technical differences, but the big concern I'm wondering- firing pin and channel. In order to take the firing pin out, I have to drift the rear sight on these.

Now: the issue of cleaning after shooting corrosive. I've had people online say to do everything from "clean the gun as normal but wash the barrel with soap and water", to "break the gun down and boil it". And everything in between.

I don't want my firing pin to start rusting from corrosive primer residue, and I don't want it rusting from soaking it in a pan either. I know shite gets everywhere just from having to wipe it down after shooting, but I'm wondering just HOW MUCH it actually gets everywhere...

Looking around online, the vast majority is rifle related. I know how to clean a Mosin or a Mauser, I get the concept. But they're different from a pistol; the casing isn't ejected microseconds after firing, where a pistol does that.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
I think the issue with corrosive ammo is in how the residue reacts with humidity on the hours after firing. I had an old Yugo 8mm Mauser and would hose down the chamber, bore, and bolt with Ballistol after firing. I know black powder folks use it too. If you can displace the moisture or put up a barrier then the corrosion issue might be minimized without having to pull the firing pin often.
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
22839 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 1:13 pm to
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I think the issue with corrosive ammo is in how the residue reacts with humidity on the hours after firing. I had an old Yugo 8mm Mauser and would hose down the chamber, bore, and bolt with Ballistol after firing. I know black powder folks use it too. If you can displace the moisture or put up a barrier then the corrosion issue might be minimized without having to pull the firing pin often.

Clames, you're the other one I was thinking of when I wrote that post

Like you, I have a Mauser (mine was my Dad's Czech); and I have a Mosin and an Argentine Mauser. Those rifles, I have a comfortable technique.

Like I said, my concern goes to the semiauto pistol operations... the case is ejected in milliseconds, we've got gases from firing dumping all around. And that crap gets everywhere- I've shot ammo that leaves little unfired grains (and other stuff) everywhere. Did some Yugo surplus Tok, tiny orange specks (I assume from the primer sealant), I found some on my slide rails, back near the hammer assembly (you can pull it from a Tok as a single assembly), down the magwell... everywhere.

Ballistol in question for that, says mix 7:1 with water, and then I assume you spray/wipe on, then wipe off. Water seems to be key, dissolve the corrosive primer salts and then get rid of it. Ballistol mixes with water, so as the excess water evaporates, the ballistol remains, and then you are safe to clean as normal.
Other stuff like soap, I assume you are bound to have to dry and clean and re-oil fast.

If the primer case doesn't get pierced, how much concern are we about having that residue seeping into/around the pin, and into the chamber?
Some folks say to boil the whole thing in a pan, wouldn't that be a greater risk, if you don't pull the pin?

I know, some folks say you can spray something like WD 40 to displace any water, but I've always been of the understanding in a pistol (in particular) you try to leave the actual firing pin alone and dry. Wipe the face off, the rest should be good. Don't shoot anything down that channel unless you're able to swab it out very well.
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