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Summit Vine Ladder Stand, gimmicky or no?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:43 am
What started as a discussion on whether this could cause issues with footing while climbing the ladder, turned into a discussion on whether having a ladder that looks like something natural (vines) opposed to a typical ladder actually has merit, or is it gimmicky.
What say the OB?
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:48 am to Citica8
I say it can't hurt
Not many straight/geometric lines natural in the woods
Not many straight/geometric lines natural in the woods
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:52 am to Citica8
Assuming deer ladder stand here, so you want to blend in with the vines while wearing a neon bright orange vest or jacket?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:56 am to Wtodd
You don't understand how a deer's eyes work do you?
Thanks for playing though
Thanks for playing though
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:01 pm to Citica8
It's definitely gimmicky as frick.
Whether it's worth your money, then that's your call. It can't hurt, but the top part is still obviously unnatural and I'm in the camp that believes deer see movement above all else. I hunt in dense woods at close ranges, in all open stands all season. I've had deer stare straight at me from 10 yards away and eventually relax if I didn't flinch. Also been busted from 45 yards out because I didn't know the deer was there and moved.
Whether it's worth your money, then that's your call. It can't hurt, but the top part is still obviously unnatural and I'm in the camp that believes deer see movement above all else. I hunt in dense woods at close ranges, in all open stands all season. I've had deer stare straight at me from 10 yards away and eventually relax if I didn't flinch. Also been busted from 45 yards out because I didn't know the deer was there and moved.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:02 pm to Wtodd
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Assuming deer ladder stand here, so you want to blend in with the vines while wearing a neon bright orange vest or jacket?
Yeesh
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:08 pm to mylsuhat
While I don't disagree, It retails for roughly double the price of comparable stands, probably a hell of a lot heavier also. Add in the fact that the steps are rounded with potentially muddy boots and the space between steps is significantly smaller than a traditional ladder, and the cons outweigh the pros for me.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:12 pm to Wtodd
quote:that's gonna require a new thread, bub
while wearing a neon bright orange vest or jacket
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:14 pm to mylsuhat
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Not many straight/geometric lines natural in the woods
I say gimmicky
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
So pines planted in rows are naturally occurring?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
While I see your point, this picture you posted isn't really "natural". Those are all planted pine rows.
A lot less straight lines in a natural growth wooded area.
A lot less straight lines in a natural growth wooded area.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Idk who's place looks like that, pine row crops, but ours is more:
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:22 pm to Citica8
Gimmick. Save your $$
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:32 pm to Jj283
I've just personally never got in my ladder stand and said "I don't smell, I'm not moving, but I'd feel like I'm concealed a hell of a lot better if it weren't for these damn linear legs and steps on this ladder stand." I don't think it's ever cost me a deer, and I'm pretty sure it's becomes "natural" once it's been there long enough. Much more so than a couple 4x8 sheets of plywood 15' in the air in the middle of a field which seems to be working pretty well for a lot of people.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:35 pm to mylsuhat
That post was more tongue-in-cheek than making an argument
realistically though, there are less horizontal lines in the undergrowth than vertical. Id think rungs on a ladder would stand out more than the sides
realistically though, there are less horizontal lines in the undergrowth than vertical. Id think rungs on a ladder would stand out more than the sides
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:40 pm to Citica8
Spot on.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:34 pm to Citica8
Might help with not getting your shite stole
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:25 pm to Citica8
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It retails for roughly double the price of comparable stands
The answer lies here
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:05 pm to snapper26
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So pines planted in rows are naturally occurring?
Good point, deer are terrified of planted pines.
Looks like the design makes it stand out more when viewed from the side. Definitely a gimmick.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:43 pm to Citica8
Just cut some saplings and place around ladder.
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