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small engine/generator help
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:50 pm
I’ve had a little 3500w generator for about 12-15 years that I keep around the house. It’s a knock off brand I bought from Bowie whenever I was in college. The thing has always run incredibly well for what it cost and I stay current on maintenance with it. I only use non ethanol fuel and I always stabilize and run fuel out of the carb before storing.
Today, I was cleaning out my garage and I cranked the generator just to run it for a bit. Haven’t cranked it in several months. It cranked fine on choke, ran fine, but then shut down after about 30 seconds. I repeated this about 6-7 times and got the same result.
Looking at it, I noticed there was a bit of oil in the air filter. I pulled the filter out and noticed that it seemed like a little bit of oil was collecting at the bottom of the filter insert. I pulled the plug and it was pretty fouled, so I sanded it down an bit and put it back in. When I cranked it again, it ran fine for about 2 minutes, then shut down again. When it was running, it was purring.
I don’t particularly need this thing anytime soon, but I like to keep all of my equipment in good working order so fixing this thing is going to be a project of mine this week. I’m not a mechanic though, so I come to the OB small engine gurus for direction. What say you?
TIA.
Today, I was cleaning out my garage and I cranked the generator just to run it for a bit. Haven’t cranked it in several months. It cranked fine on choke, ran fine, but then shut down after about 30 seconds. I repeated this about 6-7 times and got the same result.
Looking at it, I noticed there was a bit of oil in the air filter. I pulled the filter out and noticed that it seemed like a little bit of oil was collecting at the bottom of the filter insert. I pulled the plug and it was pretty fouled, so I sanded it down an bit and put it back in. When I cranked it again, it ran fine for about 2 minutes, then shut down again. When it was running, it was purring.
I don’t particularly need this thing anytime soon, but I like to keep all of my equipment in good working order so fixing this thing is going to be a project of mine this week. I’m not a mechanic though, so I come to the OB small engine gurus for direction. What say you?
TIA.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:11 pm to bluemoons
Water in the gas? Run some Seafoam through it and see if that helps.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:16 pm to BFIV
I forgot to mention I also put some Seafoam in it after I pulled the plug and sanded a bit. It smoked a little, but not badly enough to make me think there was a serious carb issue.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:19 pm to bluemoons
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12-15 years
This is one of those cases where you can do everthing right and age has just caught up to things. I would pull the carb and check it over, even with non-ethanol gas and stabilizer it will still pick up crud and varnish deposits from the fuel. Poke a wire through any metering jet or orifice you see, make sure the float and needle assembly works as it should, shoot carb cleaner through it or compressed air then try again. Also check the fuel valve if it has one, my Champion started having the exact same issue and it turned out to be a faulty fuel shutoff valve under the tank, would flow just enough fuel to start the generator but would starve and die after a few minutes.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:12 pm to bluemoons
Check to make sure it doesn’t have a low oil shutoff. Went through a whole day replacing a carb and fighting an old coleman generator only to find out it was just low on oil.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:24 am to PoorOtis
I'll add this. I've had a low oil switch go bad before. Make sure it has oil and unplug the cutoff switch and see what happens.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:51 am to bluemoons
Check the fuel tank cap to see if it is venting properly.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:06 am to bluemoons
All good go-to suggestions so far.
1. Make sure the low oil sensor isn't malfunctioning. This would be the easiest and quickest thing to try first. Simply find the wire and disconnect it. Make sure it has oil, obviously.
2. Make sure the coil pack is operating properly. A coil pack going bad will start to malfunction when it gets hot.
3. Make sure the gas lines are good and the gas cap is venting.
4. Take the carb apart, shoot carb cleaner through each and every hole on it and make sure it's flowing freely through each channel / jet. Make sure the float and needle valve are working properly.
As stated sometimes age just takes its toll from a practical standpoint. My dad has one about the same age and it has several different choke settings. This year it's running perfect between 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Just the way it goes.
1. Make sure the low oil sensor isn't malfunctioning. This would be the easiest and quickest thing to try first. Simply find the wire and disconnect it. Make sure it has oil, obviously.
2. Make sure the coil pack is operating properly. A coil pack going bad will start to malfunction when it gets hot.
3. Make sure the gas lines are good and the gas cap is venting.
4. Take the carb apart, shoot carb cleaner through each and every hole on it and make sure it's flowing freely through each channel / jet. Make sure the float and needle valve are working properly.
As stated sometimes age just takes its toll from a practical standpoint. My dad has one about the same age and it has several different choke settings. This year it's running perfect between 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Just the way it goes.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:17 am to TheBoo
Thanks for all of the suggestions. I'm going to take a deeper dive into it after work today and see if I can make some headway. I'll update.
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