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Silver Labs
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:54 pm
Lets hear it. I wanna know what all of y'all know, hear, and see about this newest designer breed. Weimaraner and Labrador aka. (SILVER LAB). What are the precentages of each that make the best dog? Health concerns? Is this just a fad and will fade? Will it infiltrate our great Lab blood lines and mess up the breed since paperwork is so easy to fake? Pro's Con's.....GEAUX.
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:56 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Wife is dying for one.
Not paying what they want for one. Gorgeous dogs though.
Not paying what they want for one. Gorgeous dogs though.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:56 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:That's not what it is. Recessive genes. We already discussed it and opinions are mixed. You will get a lot of misinformation in the responses.
Weimaraner and Labrador aka.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:59 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
You posted in this one.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:02 pm to AlxTgr
Yea they are sky high on what folks are asking for them.
AXLTGR, LSU Vet tells me otherwise. Recessive genes are just that. They rarely show up and will surely not split off and become semi-dominate and take on the numbers we are seeing bred for sale. He tells me it is a dilute gene only found in the Weimeraner breed that shows itself well when crossbred with Labradors. He was explaining the recessive gene phenomenon folks have tried to play off. and when you are having litters where the recessive gene is showing itself more than about 3% of the time, you better start asking questions. Something about probability and a punit square. I didn't get it but he is the genius not I
AXLTGR, LSU Vet tells me otherwise. Recessive genes are just that. They rarely show up and will surely not split off and become semi-dominate and take on the numbers we are seeing bred for sale. He tells me it is a dilute gene only found in the Weimeraner breed that shows itself well when crossbred with Labradors. He was explaining the recessive gene phenomenon folks have tried to play off. and when you are having litters where the recessive gene is showing itself more than about 3% of the time, you better start asking questions. Something about probability and a punit square. I didn't get it but he is the genius not I
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:04 pm to AlxTgr
Yep been looking more into it for the kids recently and wanna know who basically has the best ones out there. Like what % say 25 Weimeraner and 75 lab makes the better dog. ???? Weimeraner are way hyper want as much of that bred out as possible so to speak
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:06 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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Weimeraner are way hyper want as much of that bred out as possible so to speak
Easy, don't buy a part weimeraner.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:07 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
I gotta know if this high dollar investment will be around long enough to pay for itself or is it getting a bad rap and gonna be a over night price drop and I'm left with mutt puppies, a bunch of vet bills because its unhealthy, or lookin stupid cause he got a hold of the neighbors high dollar field lab
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:08 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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Do They Contain Weimaraner Genes?
The major belief is that the dilute d gene was introduced into the breed by cross breeding with Weimaraners. This breed always carries the dilute d gene and have the distinctive silver, gray or dilute color.
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In my research, I’ve been unable to find any concrete evidence that the silvers contain Weimaraner genes. It will be interesting to keep an eye on this story as it unveils in the coming years.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:09 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Beautiful dogs, but for the price i would not buy one. They are not registered as silver labs, they will be registered as chocolate labs. They carry a recessive gene which could carry multiple genetic issues down the road. Just not something im willing to deal with spending that kinda money
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:13 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:
AXLTGR, LSU Vet tells me otherwise. Recessive genes are just that. They rarely show up and will surely not split off and become semi-dominate and take on the numbers we are seeing bred for sale. He tells me it is a dilute gene only found in the Weimeraner breed that shows itself well when crossbred with Labradors. He was explaining the recessive gene phenomenon folks have tried to play off. and when you are having litters where the recessive gene is showing itself more than about 3% of the time, you better start asking questions. Something about probability and a punit square. I didn't get it but he is the genius not I
I have one and I agree with everything the vet said. While it's possible to get dilute colors with a pure lab bloodline, it's not happening at the rate they're popping up now. Bout what you would expect mixing the two, very high energy and needy, but smart and driven. I have to be careful because he will give himself heat stroke before he stops retrieving.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:14 pm to oleyeller
quote:You sure about that?
They carry a recessive gene which could carry multiple genetic issues down the road
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:14 pm to oleyeller
Just the chance that they'd act anything like a weimeraner is enough to throw me off. Those dogs are nuts and suck (our neighbors have repeatedly bought new ones, and they have the worst personalities... like a GSP without the usefulness).
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:20 pm to hogfly
I'm not arguing in the fact that it is a pure bred lab with you axltgr because it just isn't. At the number of silver ones that are produced and sold and now whole kennels of them. Yea we get it. It is a cross breed. My question still stands. At what % is making the best dog? Anyone hearing anything on this?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:22 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:You can't support that.
I'm not arguing in the fact that it is a pure bred lab with you axltgr because it just isn't.
quote:That's not how this works. If there is Weimaraner involved, it was long ago.
My question still stands. At what % is making the best dog? Anyone hearing anything on this?
You're a Bossier alter, right?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:24 pm to AlxTgr
No I'm not from the Bossier area. And I'll stick to what the LSU Vet school is telling me but thanks. Have a good day sir.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:28 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:You listened poorly.
And I'll stick to what the LSU Vet school is telling me but thanks.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:30 pm to AlxTgr
Alx has a point. Even if there is Weim involved, it isn't like breeding a Lab and a poodle to make a Labradoodle.
Now, that doesn't mean some folks aren't taking that shortcut to get a silver colored mutt that looks like a lab.
I wouldn't go that route at all.
Breeding dogs purely for color usually means disregarding all traits but color. Until a color line is well established I would say buyer beware...
ETA: nice article LINK
Now, that doesn't mean some folks aren't taking that shortcut to get a silver colored mutt that looks like a lab.
I wouldn't go that route at all.
Breeding dogs purely for color usually means disregarding all traits but color. Until a color line is well established I would say buyer beware...
ETA: nice article LINK
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:37 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Look into the blue lacy instead. Great dogs and look like a 45 lb silver lab.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:44 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Wrong to manipulate genetics like this.
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