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Shotshell Reloading
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:49 pm
Does anyone here load their own shotshells? Specifically steel shot. And has anyone experimented with a steel/TSS duplex load? There is no published load data that I can find. Does anyone have any experience and have a good verified load? Would you share this recipe? I have loaded some (based on published 1 1/4 oz steel loads) with an ounce of #2 steel, topped with 1/5 oz of #8 or #9 TSS and buffer in a couple different wads with a couple different powders. I have not shot them, but might go pattern them this afternoon if the rain will let up. Anybody got any loads they would share?
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:10 pm to captdalton
an improperly sealed shell will result in a dud/misfire. I was standing to left of son duck hunting when a misfire occurred and wadding plugged the barrel. His second shot split the barrel on the right side, throwing crap in the best direction.
We do not use reloads for shotguns
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:22 pm to Trevaylin
Who loaded the shell that caused the barrel obstruction? I assume that since you jumped in here it was a reload/handload.
I must just be lucky, I haven’t blown any guns up. Do you have any first hand load data for a steel/TSS duplex load? Thank you.
I must just be lucky, I haven’t blown any guns up. Do you have any first hand load data for a steel/TSS duplex load? Thank you.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:38 pm to captdalton
Man we used to experiment with different loads, it was lots of fun. I only hand load for rifle now and sometimes go on accurateshooter.com… surely someone has a forum for shotgun shells but I’m not sure who… I guess really no help but good luck!!
Oh and I never blew up any barrels either..
Oh and I never blew up any barrels either..
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:56 pm to JDPndahizzy
Internet forums (refugeforums, duckhuntingchat, trapshooting, etc.) have been the only place I have gotten any info on it. I used some of what I read to help when putting together these test loads.. But a lot of if is the same people posting the same info on multiple forums. And I think most of if came originally from Hal Abbott, who sells TSS and will share loads when you buy shot. So really, there isn’t much info out there. As many duck hunters as there are in LA i thought someone might have some first hand experience with specific wads, shot mixes, and powders/powder load.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:01 pm to captdalton
Duckhuntingchat.com was the best place for steelshot reloading discussion. I learned a lot about reloading from those guys. Sadly most of the old guard doesn’t post there anymore. My advice is to ditch the duplex loads and work up a 7/8 or 1 oz tss load. That is if you are willing to spend the cash on tss. That shite is expensive.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:16 pm to Wolfmanjack
I am not willing to spend that on a duck load. That is why I am looking for a duplex load. Basically a souped up steel load. These duplex loads I have loaded cost about $1.30 each, or about $0.60 more per shell than straight steel. I can live with that. If I loaded it with 1’oz of tss they would cost $4 each. I will spend $5-8 a shell on my turkey loads, but not for a duck load.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:00 pm to captdalton
You can get a budget Lee loader and components from ballistic products for under $150
They have a whole booklet on steel reloading
I load shot buckshot and slugs
It is a really rewarding hobby
They have a whole booklet on steel reloading
I load shot buckshot and slugs
It is a really rewarding hobby
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:24 pm to nvcowboyfan
I guess I should have clarified. I have loaded shotshells for 4 or 5 years? Maybe more, time flies. I started so I could load TSS turkey loads before TSS became mainstream. At that time I had already been loading metallic for 12-15 years. Until TSS I didnt see the need to reload shotshells. Since I started loading turkey loads and roll crimping on a drill press, I have gotten a loader and have all kinds of hulls, wads, powders and shot. I load for about 20 rifle calibers, 8 pistol, and 12 and 20 gauge shotshells in lead, steel, and buckshot. I was just looking for a steel/tss duplex load recipe. I am patterning now; if I can figure out Imgur I will post results. I have a lot of fun with it, and with some time and money I think I produce better/more accurate/more effective loads. So far I have not blown up a gun. Wish me luck, I have a few more to go.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:37 pm to captdalton
ballisticproducts.com
has a ton of shotshell reloading manuals
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:53 pm to captdalton
" who loaded the shell" ? Fred Spitze.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:53 pm to captdalton
Here is what I found today. All shots were at 40 yards. I did not blow up a gun and still have all my eyeballs; ears, and fingers. Since I was using poster board, I used a 16” circle instead of a 20” circle, and tried to center the pattern. The larger X was my point of aim.
Winchester 3” Xpert #2
Federal Black Cloud 3” #3
Hevi Metal 3” #2
Handload 3” #2
Handload 3” steel/TSS
Definitely gonna spend some more time tinkering with powder charge and running that duplex load over the chronograph. Almost double the effective pellets with only 1/5 oz of TSS.
Winchester 3” Xpert #2
Federal Black Cloud 3” #3
Hevi Metal 3” #2
Handload 3” #2
Handload 3” steel/TSS
Definitely gonna spend some more time tinkering with powder charge and running that duplex load over the chronograph. Almost double the effective pellets with only 1/5 oz of TSS.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 6:00 pm to captdalton
Should note, factory modified choke out of a Remington 870 super mag. That is what I pattern everything out of to start; rather blow up one of those than a benelii or beretta. Plus a rem 870 super mag barrel and action will handle exponentially more pressure than SAAMI specs. The Italian guns probably will too but I don’t know first hand. I am going to chrono the duplex load with a couple different powder weights and then pattern it in the benelli.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 6:03 pm to Trevaylin
quote:
" who loaded the shell" ? Fred Spitze
I wouldn’t shoot anymore of his handloads.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:27 pm to captdalton
What kind of loader do you use? I was thinking of buying one but then went looking for primers and couldn’t find any so decided to buy boxes whenever I get a chance.
Where do you get your materials from?
Where do you get your materials from?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:32 pm to Jeff_B
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:47 pm to Jeff_B
These were mostly measured and loaded by hand. There is no reason to set up a progressive to load 5 shells. I only used the loader for crimping the shells. I have a MEC and a lee load all. Either would work for this. I get most components from ballistic products and precision reloading. i have another source for TSS, though you can get it from both of them too. I also pick up stuff, especially powder, primers and wads, locally wherever I can find it. My handloads were loaded on 3” fiocchi hulls that I purchased already primed and skived from ballisticproducts.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:38 pm to captdalton
Damn that last pattern will be a death ray at 25-30.
I doubt a #9 of any material would do much to a later winter mallard past 25 or so though.
I doubt a #9 of any material would do much to a later winter mallard past 25 or so though.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:46 am to White Bear
#9 TSS will kill a lot further than one should be shooting at a bird, whether a duck or turkey. It will penetrate like steel BB or lead 4. The #2 steel will loose it’s energy and penetration before the TSS. TSS really is a game changer, and it performs so well that until you use it it is hard to believe. But it costs $50 or more a pound, so you pay royally for it. I have not shot ducks with it, but I have shot plenty of turkeys with it past, in some cases way past, 30 yards. It will straight turn a turkey into a flopping blob at 50 yards.
TSS Overview
Just for comparison, here is a 3” 2 ounce 12 gauge 8/9 blend turkey load at 50 yards.
TSS Overview
Just for comparison, here is a 3” 2 ounce 12 gauge 8/9 blend turkey load at 50 yards.
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