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re: Roundup and briars
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:05 am to BulldawgBooster
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:05 am to BulldawgBooster
quote:I was not implying that the active mechanism was root oriented. I know it is a broad spectrum, systemic, post-emergence herbicide.
Roundup doesn't bind to the soil, it's a contact non-selective herbicide. It only kills what it's sprayed on.
However, Glyphosate absolutely binds with the soil. That is what makes it an effective commercial herbicide. The primary reason that crops can be planted or seeded directly into treated areas following application is that glyophosate exhibits essentially no preemergent activity even when applied at high rates.
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:09 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:It's sparce and my Stihl can deal with it. I'm talking about an area maybe 2' wide between my driveway and a wood fence where my 5th wheel stays. Used to be hedges, but I cut them so my camper slide out could be opened.
you will still have a briar patch. It'll just be a dead one. You'll have to bush hog it or something to get rid of it.
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:14 am to Mahootney
quote:Ok. I see what ya'll are saying. Let me rephrase.
Round-up kills everything, but binds to the soil and creates a dead space. In six months, you'll have all kinds of thistles and vines.
quote:That better?
Round-up kills everything and creates a dead space. It binds to the soil and doesn't prevent new growth. In six months, you'll have all kinds of thistles and vines.

Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:16 am to AlxTgr
quote:Once you get it mowed down, it won't be much trouble. You can let some grass grow or just keep sparying it.
It's sparce and my Stihl can deal with it. I'm talking about an area maybe 2' wide between my driveway and a wood fence... Used to be hedges, but I cut them so my camper slide out could be opened.
quote:Pics?
where my 5th wheel stays.

Posted on 5/19/11 at 2:15 pm to Mahootney
My daddy uses diesel in the ditches at their house. And I uusally dump my old cooking oil where I want to kill the grass 

Posted on 5/20/11 at 5:18 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:One of the ingredients in Roundup is a surfactant POEA (polyethoxylated tallow amine).
DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yes. Roundup is great shite. You may need to add a surfactant though.
quote:Definitely some bad shyt. Was used by U.S. forces during the Vietnam War- in combination with 2,4,5-T - as a defoliant to expose enemy guerrilla forces in forested area. Yeah, ever hear of "Agent Orange"?
DownshiftAndFloorIt
2-4D is the shite IMO
quote:Vaporizes and becomes airborne. Herbicide drift generally is caused by movement of spray droplets or herbicide vapors.
tigerfoot
volatize
What does this mean? And I dont want to look it up!
What people fail to factor in is that spring, soil surface temperatures can be 10 - 15 degrees hotter than the air temperature, especially in mid-afternoon, increasing the possibility of volatilization.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 5:21 pm to Mahootney
quote:Monsanto (Makers of Roundup) produces seeds which grow into plants genetically engineered to be tolerant to glyphosate, which are known as Roundup Ready crops.
The primary reason that crops can be planted or seeded directly into treated areas following application is that glyophosate exhibits essentially no preemergent activity even when applied at high rates.
All this means is that "Roundup Ready crops" can also be sprayed after planting/sprouting. Wanted to clarify that I was only adding to, not correcting your contribution.
This post was edited on 5/20/11 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 5/20/11 at 11:15 pm to AlxTgr
just double up on the recommended concentration and add a little dish soap to the sprayer...garanteed to work.....
Posted on 5/21/11 at 5:40 am to LSUballs
quote:this is the correct answer...
should smoke the vines

Posted on 5/21/11 at 7:07 am to AlxTgr
I switched to a product called Cornerstone Plus, by Winfield Soultions,It's much cheaper than Round up and has a longer kill time. It also kills the briars and poison ive that regular Round up does no kill. Best part for me is i only use 3 oz. per gallon with saves me money for my biz.It's also fairly safe around pets which is a must for me.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 2:39 pm to FISH N TIGER
quote:How much is it cause since Monsanto lost their patent it's very cheap also. In fact you can buy Eraser and it's the same thing/active ingredient.
It's much cheaper than Round up and has a longer kill time. It also kills the briars and poison ive that regular Round up does no kill. Best part for me is i only use 3 oz. per gallon with saves me money for my biz.It's also fairly safe around pets which is a must for me.
I only use 2 ounzes per gallon unless I'm spraying bermuda- a 1 ounze per gallon application won't kill bermuda.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 2:50 pm to FISH N TIGER
quote:
I switched to a product called Cornerstone Plus, by Winfield Soultions,It's much cheaper than Round up
A lot of companies make knock off glyphos products.
Drexel Chemical makes "imitator" which is just like roundup, and "imitator plus" which is a heavier mix comparable to round up weathermax.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 3:35 pm to Geauxtiga
Conerstone i buy comes in a 2.5 Gal jug and it's about $35. You can also use 2oz per gal, but after using it for a couple years now 3oz seems to work better for me as i charge to use it and wanna make sure it does the job.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 3:39 pm to FISH N TIGER
I noticed the generics seem a little weaker, but at the reduced price it pays to up the shot like you were saying.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 4:33 pm to FISH N TIGER
quote:Thanks, I'd never heard of that brand.
Conerstone i buy comes in a 2.5 Gal jug and it's about $35. You can also use 2oz per gal, but after using it for a couple years now 3oz seems to work better for me as i charge to use it and wanna make sure it does the job.

Posted on 5/21/11 at 4:41 pm to Spankum
quote:
just double up on the recommended concentration
Mixing over the recommended ratio is pretty much just wasting chemical and money. Most herbicides work the best at the recommended ratio. Pouring the chemical straight on a weed does no more good than just spraying the weed with the appropriate mix(with most chemicals).
Posted on 5/21/11 at 4:43 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Pics?

Thats freaking sweet.
I lived in a condo once and had a mini back yard i got tired of paying someone to cut so i bought 50 boxes of table salt and started pouring ....after a few weeks it killed eveything even blackberry vines.
Posted on 5/21/11 at 4:48 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:He's talking about Roundup though and that one does work better if stronger. At 1 oz per gallon, for example, bermuda won't be killed but at 2 you can kiss it good bye and at 3 it'll show in less than 5 days.
Mixing over the recommended ratio is pretty much just wasting chemical and money. Most herbicides work the best at the recommended ratio. Pouring the chemical straight on a weed does no more good than just spraying the weed with the appropriate mix(with most chemicals).

Posted on 5/21/11 at 4:50 pm to Geauxtiga
What does it call for on the label? 2.5 oz a gallon?
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