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Questions about training hunting dogs.

Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:33 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:33 am
1. Would it be wrong to rename a 18 month old dog? I prefer hunting dogs to have a monosyllabic name.

2. How often should a hunting dog be bathed? More specifically is there truly a concern about removing too much skin oil and dirt and thus affecting the dog's ability to withstand cold and wet.

3. Do you advise having a dog trained professionally for hunting purposes and then practicing those techniques with the dog or do you think it better to train yourself and why?

4. What is your feeling on hunting dogs being inside the house pets also?



Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:36 am to
quote:

What is your feeling on hunting dogs being inside the house pets also


Choirboy has 2 badass labs and they both live inside.

He can answer the other questions when he gets here.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:50 am to
1. I did it with one of mine around the same age, didn't have any negative side effects and he learned it just fine.

2. I don't bathe mine very often, only if they really get funky. If real dirty just hose them down in the yard with only water.

3. If first time training one consider getting it trained by someone and go watch and learn what the trainer does for future knowledge. Or find someone with dogs and let them teach you how to train them. I did the second choice.

4. Having them in the house will do nothing harmful to their hunting ability or drive. I play fetch with my beagles in the off season and, let them ride 4 wheelers with me, ride in the cab of the truck etc etc. you can't stop several hundred years of breeding and instinct by letting them stay in the house.

That's my 0.02 cents on the matter.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:21 am to
1. I like the name Winston, but renaming would be fine.

2. There shouldn't be a concern about over bathing unless you are doing it on a daily basis. We bathe our boykin about once a week due to her fur being a little long and needing to be cleaned and brushed out. The dog's body mass will much more affect the ability to withstand the cold than the skin oil and dirt you remove.

3. It all depends on how much time you have and if money is a concern. If you have the time, I would do it yourself to create a stronger working bond with your dog. If you don't have the time (15-30 minutes a day, every day), send him off and just be sure to work with him once you get him back. He will get rusty.

4. Our boykin stays outside during the day and comes inside when we get back from school/work. Weather and acclimitazation to the cold has never been an issue for her.
This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 11:23 am
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15814 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:35 am to
1. Never heard of dog named monosyllabic, but hey, its your dog.
2. Nothing wrong with a clean dog, but make sure its dog/pet shampoo.
3. Obedience train it. Get it too fetching, and let a pro take from there. Tell him you want a seasoned dog, not a finished. He'll be able to do what you want him/her in the field.
4. I have two labs, and to my wifes disdain, they stay in the house.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30432 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:40 am to
1. yes... would be real difficult. have seen it work though..
2. rarely
3. train with a group of knowledgeable people if you can.
4. inside dogs know their handlers much better.... and respond better. and it's not even close.
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:47 am to
quote:

1. Would it be wrong to rename a 18 month old dog? I prefer hunting dogs to have a monosyllabic name.


I've never tried. I can't answer this question. Like you, I generally name my dogs a single syllable name.

quote:

2. How often should a hunting dog be bathed? More specifically is there truly a concern about removing too much skin oil and dirt and thus affecting the dog's ability to withstand cold and wet.


My labs get a bath about once a month. Basically when they smell too bad, I bathe them. I have never worried one day about bathing them too much, but then again I only do it once a month.

quote:

3. Do you advise having a dog trained professionally for hunting purposes and then practicing those techniques with the dog or do you think it better to train yourself and why?


I would ALWAYS advise you doing it on your own. It is so much more rewarding and you learn as much about your dogs personality as your dog learns about you. Just be consistent.

BUT, this is really answered best by you. What do you want from the dog? How much time do you have to train your dog?

Is this for that water spaniel? She looked like she had been started. How far along is she?

quote:

4. What is your feeling on hunting dogs being inside the house pets also?


To me, it is a complete fallacy to believe that you can't have great hunting dogs that aren't pets. All of my retrievers have been both good hunting dogs and great companions/friends.

The idea that a "hunting" has to be cooped up all day long outside is hog wash. Frankly I always feel sorry for those dogs that are strictly used as tools. I also feel sorry for their owners. They are missing out of so much love and an endearing friendship.

BUT, it also depends on the dog. They have to have the personality to be an inside dog.
This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:49 am to
1. No problems renaming it will get used to it pretty quick.
2. I think that depends on the answer to #4
3. It depends on the type of hunting. Deer and hog dogs learn mostly by going with other dogs. I don't have much experience with labs or retrievers so I can't say professional or not. Bird dogs are pretty easy to train if started young enough without professional help.
4. We always had deer dogs that stayed outside but our bird dogs lived a life of luxury so once again I think it hinges on the breed you are looking at.






Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24934 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:50 am to
At 18mths I probably wouldn't change it

My lab gets bathed about once a month but needs it more often

It really isn't hard to train one, just need to take the time to do it.

My lab is a member of my family and is a pet 1st and hunting dog 2nd.
Posted by bakerLSU
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2005
10 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:55 am to
Semi hijack, but glad to see that dog is going to a good home. I must have called a few minutes after you did BleedingPurple. He mentioned a guy from Athens had just called and later confirmed you were getting him. (I'm next on the list if you fall through).

I would be interested in the progress you make and how he works as a bird dog for my future reference. Especially with keeping him indoors.

I didnt know too much about the breed but read up quickly when the post went up yesterday and liked what I saw. I'm limited in where I can hunt in the Shreveport area because I am currently dog-less but may need to remedy that in the future. Good luck.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 12:12 pm to
Should've named it correctly the first time. It might just confuse the dog. My dog responds better to "hey" than he does his name.

My dog is almost 5 and he has had 4 baths. 2 if those were because he had fleas. When he gets wet, he just smells like dog shampoo.

Labs are pretty easy to train. If they are smart and listen well, it shouldn't be hard to train right now. Spend some time doing it yourself and you will better understand his mannerisms when hunting and what adjustments need to be made with him.

My dog lives inside
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17668 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 12:21 pm to
1 Not really but not a hill I would die on
2 when they stink
3 NO! a good trained dog wants to please its owner you can do it 10-20 min a day develop a relationship a heavy handed trainer can wreck a dog
4 absolutely it's your best friend (in a way)
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 12:24 pm to
I will add this on bathing your dog: AWSs have thick, curly fur. Even if you don't bathe the bastard once a week, a good brushing once a week is a must. A tangled matt of fur is not only uncomfrotable for the dog, but also prevents the fur from being as insulating and water-wicking as it is supposed to be
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

My dog responds better to "hey" than he does his name.


Lol. So true!
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