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Prefit barrel suggestions for a rem 700 action.

Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1722 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:59 pm
Long action mag face. Haven’t decided between 7mag or possibly a wildcat caliber. What barrels would you buy for this action?
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
379 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 3:17 pm to
Northland shooting supply sells criterion. Have one in 308 that I built. Certified bug hole shooter.
I’ve heard good things about x-caliber as well.
Do a Google search for Remage 700 barrels. About half a dozen makers w a good rep will pop up.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 3:59 pm to
About 3 or 5 years ago I bought a Shilen Savage prefit barrel from Northland. It was chambered in 20 Practical. It's been a very accurate gun. The turn around was quicker than expected and the service was top notch and courteous. I wanted to to order from them again for a Howage build I'm now working on, but he doesn't have Howage barrels (prefit barrel to fit the Howa action using a Savage type barrel nut). I ended up getting the Howage barrel from McGowen Barrels. My earlier Savage prefit barrel build (221 Fireball) used a McGowen barrel. While the McGowen barrel's been every bit as accurate as the Shilen, customer service at Northland was better. As already mentioned, Northland also carries barrels from other makers, as well. I'd first start w/ Northland. If you stay w/ the same bolt, you'll need a caliber built on the 7 Mag size bolt face.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:42 pm to
I highly suggest you get the action blueprinted and trued to make sure the barrel bore-axis is concentric with the action. Otherwise you’re threading perfectly machined barrel threads into the action that will look like the pics below. I’ve seen this a thousand times as Remington QC on their action & barrel threading is crap. I’ve been building and shooting custom rifles for over 30 years. Do it right the first time ... Spend the extra $175 and you’re “new to you” semi-custom rifle will shoot bugholes.

Factory take-off Rem 700

Horrible threading chatter from dull overused reamer


And you want to thread this precision machine barrel into the action threads above ? Fk no !

Have the action blueprinted so it looks like this, and the barrel & action are a precisely machined fit.


I’d even go with a “Remmage” barrel nut option so you can thread on the barrel and headspace it yourself.


Your completed rifle could easily look like this by adding a $225 HS Precision take-off stock.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:34 pm to
I’ve built two with Remage barrels. One I’ve been able to shoot a .314” group at 100yds. It’s a criterion from Northland.

The other is my sons and it’s brand new. Still working on the load. It only been shot about 30 times so far.

OP, what is the 1st letters on your serial number? The bolt may need to be timed.

Also, criterion is way behind right now. I ordered a barrel from Northland in Sept. and they’re saying late this month or early Mar.

Have another AR barrel ordered from them. Ordered it in Nov. no idea on it.

That all being said, James at NSS is great to deal with.


ETA: I sent my son’s 700 action to LRI (Long Rifles Inc) to be blue printed and bolt timed.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

I sent my son’s 700 action to LRI (Long Rifles Inc) to be blue printed and bolt timed.

very, very, very smart decision. Chad’s 5-axis precision action blueprinting machine is unbelievable, and a game changer. 7 minutes from start to finish and the action is blueprinted to perfection.
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1722 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 4:03 pm to
Does a brand new unfired action need blueprinting?

quote:

what is the 1st letters on your serial number?


RR
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Deereman9009a
Prairieville
Member since May 2018
268 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:54 pm to
Lilja and Hart! #5 contour
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Does a brand new unfired action need blueprinting?

quote:
what is the 1st letters on your serial number?


RR


Does it need blue printing? Absolutely need it? No but it would help with accuracy.

The serial starting with RR definitely needs to be have the bolt timed. If you don’t you will start having ejection issues at some point.

Call LRI and talk to them. They’re the best.

Here are a few pics of my sons action







Here is the after:

Before cerakote:


After:



Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1722 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:48 pm to
Blueprinting and timing two separate things? Or timing is done when blueprinting.
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
379 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:50 pm to
With a remage barrel, timing isn’t necessary. Uses a locking collar similar to a savage action
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

With a remage barrel, timing isn’t necessary. Uses a locking collar similar to a savage action


That’s not true and not at all what timing the bolt is doing.

I think you’re referring to getting the shoulder on the barrel correct with headspacing
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
379 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:04 pm to
Setting headspace is what I am referring to.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Blueprinting and timing two separate things? Or timing is done when blueprinting.




They are two separate things.
Blue printing is the squaring the threading and action action face along with the bolt face and lugs.

Timing the bolt has to do with the primary extraction of the bolt on the action.

The RR bolts do not contact the action the way it was designed to.

Here is one of mine that does not match:




See the angle when the base of the bolt handle doesn’t meet the angle in the action? It’s is suppose to meet and that angle pushes the bolt back along with the spent cartridge.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Does a brand new unfired action need blueprinting?

I would definitely suggest it. Just because it’s a newer, unfired action, doesn’t mean that it’s better quality. The RR serial number actions were introduced around 2016, approximately 5 years ago. Many custom rifle builders and GS’s have reported that the bolt handles were between .052" and .059" clockwise out of timing which effects extraction. If the timing is bad enough, the handle will have to be re-TIG welded.

My suggestion, let a competent GS inspect your action and bolt before spending $$ on a barrel that will never mate up perfectly with your action. Remington really F’kd up in the last few years of operation since the “bean counters” promoted volume sales over quality control. Sad how they ran the company into the ground.

Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1722 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:29 pm to
Thanks for the info

Looks like it runs $290 for blueprinting and timing.

Tell me about tier 1 vs tier 2
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:33 pm
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