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Pond survey results
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:57 pm
Had Southeastern Pond Management out to our farm pond today to do a shock survey, water analysis, etc... Learned a good bit.
Formal report will come in a week or so but the guy said alkalinity is really low and we need to lime it now, and add some carp for grass control and in the spring start fertilizing and put in about 1500-2000 2”-3” copper nose bream.
The low alkalinity is hurting the phytoplankton bloom that the spawn bream need and is limiting their survivability and thusly limiting the forage for the bass which is why it’s full of dinks. Wants to flood it with forage to help the bass and once we get the water right with the lime / fertilizer it should self correct more naturally and be more sustainable for better bass health.
He said he should have pulled up lots of fresh bream spawn from the shock but just got a small handful. Wants to start taking every bass we catch under 12” out of there up to about 50 lbs
Formal report will come in a week or so but the guy said alkalinity is really low and we need to lime it now, and add some carp for grass control and in the spring start fertilizing and put in about 1500-2000 2”-3” copper nose bream.
The low alkalinity is hurting the phytoplankton bloom that the spawn bream need and is limiting their survivability and thusly limiting the forage for the bass which is why it’s full of dinks. Wants to flood it with forage to help the bass and once we get the water right with the lime / fertilizer it should self correct more naturally and be more sustainable for better bass health.
He said he should have pulled up lots of fresh bream spawn from the shock but just got a small handful. Wants to start taking every bass we catch under 12” out of there up to about 50 lbs
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:25 pm to tigamike
How big of a pond we talking about and what region are you in? I’d be careful flooding it with too much forage. We talking 4-6 acre pond?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:32 pm to Batman Chalupa
Roughly a 2 acre pond in south Mississippi.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:53 pm to tigamike
What they didn't tell you is that you can't make a trophy bass pond on 2 acres. But you can make a hell of a trophy bluegill pond.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 9:12 pm to deeprig9
Told em I’m not looking for a trophy lake. Just want to be able to catch something better than 12” dinks. If I can get 1/10 bass I catch in the 3# plus range with an occasional 5 or 6 mixed in for good measure I’ll be happy. The bream are doing well enough and will only get better as well.
He recommended not trying to make a trophy lake out of it. Not large enough. But did say he could see it being what I layed out as my goal for the pond if managed properly
He recommended not trying to make a trophy lake out of it. Not large enough. But did say he could see it being what I layed out as my goal for the pond if managed properly
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:54 pm to tigamike
If you don't mind me asking, how much did it run to lime your pond?
Also, any places in Louisiana that do this?
Also, any places in Louisiana that do this?
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:22 am to fishbig
Haven’t checked on the lime cost yet but I’m anticipating they will recommend 4-6 tons so I’m guessing that’s gonna run me a couple grand
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:14 am to tigamike
How are you dispersing or putting it into your pond. I would love to do it but it will be hard to dump lime into my pond.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:19 am to fishbig
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fishbig
Logistics of application are not easy for a DYIer if the pond is of significant size.
Does a total alkalinity and total hardness measurement of your water indicate your pond requires lime?
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:55 am to tigamike
Be very careful with adding carp.
They've ruined more ponds than I know they've helped.
They've ruined more ponds than I know they've helped.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:15 am to tigamike
Personally I would hold off on the grass carp until you actually see an issue with vegetation. It may happen it may not, but carp are tough to remove. Bare banks cause the issue you described with bream spawn. Grass is the single best thing to protect them.
You can’t over-lime, and the more you put the longer it will last. If you have to pick between two truckloads and three cause the recommendation is in between, you’ll thank yourself for getting the third.
You can’t over-lime, and the more you put the longer it will last. If you have to pick between two truckloads and three cause the recommendation is in between, you’ll thank yourself for getting the third.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:02 pm to tigamike
If you feed the bluegill to accelerate their growth, they will lay 100x more eggs per spawn which significantly increases bass growth, especially if you cull little bass.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:50 pm to tigamike
Don't know how much fishing pressure you will have but I have caught several 5-8 lb bass out of a 2 acre pond within 2-3 years of stocking. They were Florida bass though - they grow fast.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:55 pm to tigamike
Do you own a tractor? I thought about adding a boom to the rear of my tractor so I could back gown my bank, lower the boom into the moss/ grass and drag it out of the pond.
no idea if it would work for you tho.
no idea if it would work for you tho. This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:30 pm to tigamike
How much did the survey cost?
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:45 pm to tigamike
The company we had look at a near by pond recommended we take out almost 130lbs of bass out of there each year to get the bass bigger. If the bass will filet we started pulling em from there recently. The key to big bass is drastically decreasing the competition for food/space.
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