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Planting native grass in pines
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:34 pm
This may be a long shot, but I’m looking for some info on native pine savannah grasses and the ability to seed them. I am currently building a house and the front 4ish acres is mostly loblolly pine with some hardwood mixed in. I just had the property forestry mulched to chew up all the privet and junk. It doesn’t get enough sunlight to grow turf grass and I hate grass anyway. I’m really interested in direct seeding some native pine savannah grass, namely Cherokee sedge. My thought would be to spray some preemergent in February, 2-4d in March, then seed the native grass. Has anybody done anything like this with success?
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:38 pm to bluemoons
Home and garden board may be a better place for an answer.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:52 pm to bluemoons
Look into burning if off in the spring. I don’t know that grass, but most native grasses like to be burned.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:29 pm to Outdoorreb
I'll post in the H&G. I am going to give the local LSUAG extension a call as well. This is wiregrass, but this photo is an example of the idea I'm going for:
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:36 pm to bluemoons
Wiregrass isn’t native to Louisiana but little bluestem and big bluestem would work well but they do need sunlight You will need seed to bare soil contact to get them to come up If you buy the seed, you can rent a native grass drill and drill in the seed
I would make sure you don’t have any invasives and tackle those before you plant rather than after. Much easier to deal with then before
I would make sure you don’t have any invasives and tackle those before you plant rather than after. Much easier to deal with then before
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:23 pm to bluemoons
Nothing to add. That should look awesome though if you get it going right.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:56 pm to bluemoons
Are you in Louisiana? If so I can put you in touch with quail forever biologist that can advise you
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:04 pm to wickowick
Thanks all. I reached out to Pastorek and left a message. I also got a couple good responses on the H&G board.
Wick, yes. I’m on the northshore.
Wick, yes. I’m on the northshore.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:32 pm to bluemoons
First, good for you!
Can you burn it? I’d first try and see what the seed bank has in it. Most folks doing this are burning open like stands and letting natives fill in. Other than that, I’d look into the extension service.
Can you burn it? I’d first try and see what the seed bank has in it. Most folks doing this are burning open like stands and letting natives fill in. Other than that, I’d look into the extension service.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:01 pm to bluemoons
What is the basal area of the timber stand ? Your going to need to go below 60 sf/acre and ideally below 40 to get a good stand of grass. Dormant season burns generally encourage native grasses.
If you seed native grass expect not much growth until the 2nd year or later
If you seed native grass expect not much growth until the 2nd year or later
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:24 pm to Ron Cheramie
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you can rent a native grass drill and drill in the seed
Any idea where I could rent one of those things?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:27 pm to KB375
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What is the basal area of the timber stand ? Your going to need to go below 60 sf/acre and ideally below 40 to get a good stand of grass.
No idea. Here's a photo:
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:33 pm to bluemoons
I think your crown cover is way too much for native grasses to grow. If not now, it will be in a couple of years.
Did you actually remove any overstory trees or just have underbrush mulched?
Did you actually remove any overstory trees or just have underbrush mulched?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:39 pm to turkish
We removed a good bit of mid-story trees, mostly tallow and sweet gum. The privet was really bad. All that's left really are a few oaks, hollies, and the pines. I've gotten some recs on some pretty shade tolerant grasses from LSU AG, so hoping I could get those to grow.
If I can't, the alternative may be that the understory gets mulched naturally with pine needles, which I'd also be 100% okay with. I think it would look really nice. I just wasn't able to get the property mulched prior to the pines dropping their needles this year.
If I can't, the alternative may be that the understory gets mulched naturally with pine needles, which I'd also be 100% okay with. I think it would look really nice. I just wasn't able to get the property mulched prior to the pines dropping their needles this year.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:53 pm to bluemoons
Can you run a fire through it ? Think it would help with your goals. Use a blower or rake to clear around any oaks you want to keep. Doubt it would be hot enough to kill the oaks, but it will probably set them up for heart rot due to bark damage.
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