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re: More deer in North MS found with CWD
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:38 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:38 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
This is the silliest thing I have read on here, and that is even below the MDWFP.
Many large seed/Ag companies are well "represented" on the MWC. They are not going to touch a food plot ban in MS.
Go back any ask your contact are they also considering cutting all oaks, persimmons, and honey locusts down.
Many large seed/Ag companies are well "represented" on the MWC. They are not going to touch a food plot ban in MS.
Go back any ask your contact are they also considering cutting all oaks, persimmons, and honey locusts down.
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:14 pm to Sparetime
quote:
Go back any ask your contact are they also considering cutting all oaks, persimmons, and honey locusts down.
JTFC
That should go over well.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:34 am to geauxbrown
MN is presently trying to kill as many deer as they can after finding CWD. You can drive to MN right now, buy a license and if you can secure the ground, go kill as many as you care to.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:37 am to geauxbrown
The whole eliminate the herd idea is really dumb considering the stuff is in the dirt and grass... So you kill the deer and leave the carcass, Buzzards, coyotes, crows etc carries prions across the state.
Or is MN incinerating all the carcasses.
Or is MN incinerating all the carcasses.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:41 am to jimjackandjose
quote:
dumb
what do you suggest the agencies do when in this position?
just keep on keeping on and not change anything?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:48 am to Ron Cheramie
Just too much knee jerk going on without the science to back it up.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:01 am to Sparetime
Didn't say I agree with the food plot suggestions that are on the table. Non the less they are actively talking about how to move forward with better plan on food plot management statewide. And sounds like they are being diligent in the approach and not taking anything off the table until its thoroughly discussed. I do agree with size requirements to not concentrate the herd but plowing them under is a little stretch. But I do believe they will end up with a whole new section on food plot management rules.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:06 am to bayoudude
quote:
knee jerk
well the disease has been around for quite some time and science hasn't really done much good for it
wanna just keep waiting on it a few more decades, or you wanna be proactive?
I got no science to back this up, but if you have a 1 million deer running around the odds are greater to transmit a disease than say 500k of them
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:16 am to Ron Cheramie
Well if the herd gets thinned any more in my area than what the local rednecks already accomplish I may as well just stick a for sale sign on my land. I didn’t invest over $300k to birdwatch and squirrel hunt.
ETA: this disease is in just about every state that has whitetail. I don’t think making more food plot /feeding restrictions will stop anything.
ETA: this disease is in just about every state that has whitetail. I don’t think making more food plot /feeding restrictions will stop anything.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:19 am to bayoudude
your herd isnt part of.the problem then
its when large amounts of animals are concentrated that diseases spread
its when large amounts of animals are concentrated that diseases spread
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:19 am to Ron Cheramie
At this point, it’s obvious game departments have no idea how to deal with CWD. Every time they try something and it doesn’t work, they further erode the public’s confidence that they can deal with it.
It’s -30 in Minnesota. If they survive that, they deserve to live.
It’s -30 in Minnesota. If they survive that, they deserve to live.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:21 am to Ron Cheramie
Incorrect. Disease spreads when they come in contact with any other deer, deer shite, deer piss, saliva etc etc. so any herd is a problem according to your eliminate the herd strategy.
So eliminating the herd doesn’t eliminate the spread of the disease. It just does what the disease will do without allowing nature to evolve and cure itself.
It’s been in the West for years. They are coping.
Knee jerk out fear isn’t the right answer. Invest in a cure or just inform the public what is going on and let nature do what it has done for thousands of years before humans decided to play God.
So eliminating the herd doesn’t eliminate the spread of the disease. It just does what the disease will do without allowing nature to evolve and cure itself.
It’s been in the West for years. They are coping.
Knee jerk out fear isn’t the right answer. Invest in a cure or just inform the public what is going on and let nature do what it has done for thousands of years before humans decided to play God.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:23 am to jimjackandjose
quote:
before humans decided to play god
that's what got us here in the first place
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:28 am to Ron Cheramie
All we hear is “trust the biologist”. Seems to me they’re the ones who pushed the “deer industry”. Food plots, salt blocks, protein pellets, and high fences all came from deer biologist. Where has that gotten us?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:31 am to 257WBY
pretty sure it's been the public that has been harping on wanting antler restrictions and decreased bag limits (at least in Louisiana) despite what biologists have been saying
the ones you are referring to are typically private industry biologists who get paid to help produce more or bigger deer for their clients
some of the most common advice LDWF biologists give to private landowners is to shoot more does they usually dont want to.hear that though
the ones you are referring to are typically private industry biologists who get paid to help produce more or bigger deer for their clients
some of the most common advice LDWF biologists give to private landowners is to shoot more does they usually dont want to.hear that though
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:28 am to Ron Cheramie
So the solution to “well we sucked at playing God the first time” is to double down SSJ3 God mode and wipe out a population of animals. When the cause of the issue is a protein in the ground.
When do we bulldoze and salt the earth?
When do we bulldoze and salt the earth?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:49 pm to jimjackandjose
Diseases have been around since the beginning of time, nature figures it out, this will pass
In the meantime I'd think shooting more deer would help, I took it easy this year on does but plan on taking a few this upcoming year, and also getting them tested so I know where my herd stands
In the meantime I'd think shooting more deer would help, I took it easy this year on does but plan on taking a few this upcoming year, and also getting them tested so I know where my herd stands
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