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Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:33 pm
Happy Mother's Day, you meat eaters.

This will be long and boring with lots of pictures. Not for everyone. Hope to be able to report some turkey action if not, just some beautiful scenery.

My nephew is a student at the University of Montana (It's in Missoula). So my 82yo father and I decided to meet him the week after his exams wrapped up to do some turkey hunting. I have a friend who owns a ranch in northwestern Montana. It's a nice place with plenty of turkeys, but we wanted to see some different country, and travel around a bit.

So we will be hunting all over and not just on the ranch in NW Montana.

Friday is our travel day. My dad flies out of Miami. I leave from Jackson MS. We get to Missoula in time to do some scouting on some public land near Missoula. We actually spot a gobbler, two jakes, and a couple of hens on some private land only about 200 yards from the National Forest. And it looks like they may be going to roost on the National Forest. So we head back to town and call that a success.

The Old Man tells the nephew he's buying dinner for the roommates and their girlfriends. So we all meet up and the college kids take advantage of the free food. Dad flirts with the girls like he was 20.

The next morning we head out to the place where we saw the turkeys. No other hunters in the area. But it's snowing sideways at daylight. No gobbles.

We head back to Missoula. We have 3 days before we have to meet my buddy at his ranch. So we decide to drive all the way out to Southeast Montana to explore some. The nephew's tires on his truck are awful. So the Old Man buys him a new set for the trip.

We drive 7 hours out to Ashland MT. Pull in and check into the little motel. Decide we can use a beer. So we head over to the little saloon, and pull up just as it catches on fire. It later burns to the ground.

We grab a burger from the diner instead and head out into the Custer National Forest. We see quite a few hunters riding around scouting. And some hunters at camp sites. Which is encouraging and discouraging at the same time. It's beautiful and looks like there should be turkeys around ever corner. But we know it won't be that easy.

Note: I have been hunting Merriam's turkes for 20 years. And the best thing about them (other than the scenery) is the fact that they gobble on the roost in the afternoon. I don't know why they do this. But they do. I would say 70-80% of the Merriam's turkeys gobble every afternoon. Which really makes scouting for them productive if you're willing to do it late.

Problem is that this part of the state is very sparsely populated. So it's an hour from the turkeys to the motel (YMMV of course). And they gobble from about 8:15 to about 9 pm at night. And then they are gobbling by 5 am the next morning. So we are getting to bed regularly at 11 pm. And the alarm clock goes off at 3:15.

The rule of thumb is that if you need 8 hours of sleep. Plan on getting 4 hours at night. And 4 during the middle of the day.

We split up for the evening roost. The old man checks out one area. I drop the nephew off in another area. And I "stick and move" in the truck stopping to hoot at several good looking spots. This is all new territory for us. Never hunted here before.

I pick everyone up at 9 pm. I hear nothing. My father hears nothing. But the nephew has a turkey roosted that gobbled probably 30 times!!! That's a good start, although from experience I was hoping for more. Relative to other Merriam's experience I have, this is more hunters and fewer turkeys than I have come to expect.

The next morning (this morning, Sunday morning, Mother's Day) we are back in there at 4:45 and hike in to the turkey. Unfortunately it's again snowing sideways. And the turkey he has roosted doesn't say a word. However, way off in the distance (about 1200 yards) we can hear a turkey hammering.

So we go to him. It's a long hike. But the old man is doing great for 82. We take our time, but he doesn't miss a step and doesn't really slow us down.

It ends us being what we think is two long beards and a group of jakes gobbling more or less in the same area.

We set up and they answer us every time. But they aren't coming (Merriam's gobble a lot. I mean a whole lot relative to Easterns or even Rio's).

We end up moving on these turkeys three times. And finally on the third setup they start coming.

In this picture there's a rocky outcropping between me and this gobbler. At one point he came right up to that rocky shelf in full strut. About 60 yards. Really pretty. If we had a decoy out he would have probably come all the way. But when he didn't see a hen he slowly lost interest and dropped strut and started easing back up the ridge. We called in 4 jakes as this was happening off to the left of this picture. But as of now we are not shooting jakes. And we are not using decoys. As the week goes on, we might relax those rules.


Back at the motel catching naps now. We are about to get something to eat and head back out for the evening scouting trip. Saloon is still smoking and the VFD is still on scene 24 hours later. Town of 600 people and this is the biggest fire in some time.

Will try to update daily.

Also, like I said, my father and I have been doing public land Merriam's for 20 years. So feel free to AMA.

This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted by tigahfromtheham
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:07 pm to
Truly envious by the look on dads face. He’s having a ball. Good on ya man.
Posted by 257WBY
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:14 pm to
If that’s the nephew in Orange on the right, my kids went to school with him and his brothers. Have a great trip and kill a few birds.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:17 pm to
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that’s the nephew in Orange on the right, my kids went to school with him and his brothers


Check.

At one point all three brothers were in Missoula. But one of them came home. Two are still out there. The other one is in the picture also. But he doesn't hunt much and he has to work, so he's not with us this week.
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 6:37 pm to
Awesome report. Just got. back from western Nebraska. I honestly believe there were three gobblers on the stretch of North Platte River we had to hunt and we killed two of them. Several Jakes running around for next season.

You're dead on in your assessment of their gobbling. With the exception of hunting Mexico, the western states rob me of more sleep than any other area during the spring.

Good luck!
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 7:09 pm to
We are on the edge of two Indian reservations. The Crow and the Northern Cheyenne. This is one of the saddest places I've ever been. These people just didn't develop to live in this world. It's not their fault. They're just not cut out for the version of civilization that we have thrust on them.

The ones with any sense or motivation leave the Rez as soon as they can and never come back. The ones that stay are straight culls.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:17 am to
Yesterday afternoon we split up to roost. Dad, Nephew, and I in three different areas. Only roosted one turkey. Saw several other hunters riding around.

Got up at 3 am and hiked into this turkey. We were set up within 100 yards of him at 4:45. He started gobbling at 5:08. At least two hens yelping with him. By 5:30 there was at least one other group yelping at him.

He flew down and went away from us gobbling. Later we saw yet another group trying to work into him.

Way more hunters than turkeys here. We are breaking camp and driving 8 hours to NW Montana.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:47 am to
awesome stuff

nothing I love more (ok maybe my kids and wife) than hunting Merriams in the West

and yes, they gobble early and they gobble at literally everything, but that doesn't mean they will work

Posted by NWAtigerfan
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:22 am to
I just got back from NW Montana last night. I was able to tag out in Montana. Beautiful country! Good luck!
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:40 am to
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just got back from NW Montana last night. I was able to tag out in Montana

Heck yeah!

Drop me some inside information on your leftovers!
Posted by NWAtigerfan
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:18 pm to
We hunted public land. We used OnX a ton to find smaller pieces of public and to get access to private. Don’t be afraid to ask permission to hunt some of the private stuff. Smaller tracts are typically easier to get access to than larger tracts. Go sit down with area FWP agents. They will steer you in the right direction.

The birds to seem to be moving up out of the private.
Posted by FoodExit
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:38 am to
Thanks for posting NC I’ve really enjoyed this thread. My experience with Merriam’s is they love to gobble back to your calls but hesitate to come in. This has been with mountain turkeys not sure about lower elevations.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:45 pm to
We have had some good luck in NW Montana. Nice weather. Plenty of birds. No other hunters around.

Yes they are moving up. We hunted one ranch where the owner said he had 12-15 gobblers in one pasture two weeks ago. And now there are only two. (Make that one because we clipped one).



Best story from the trip so far:

We roosted a turkey in this beautiful meadow. Between a creek and the base of a mountain. The mountain is steep. Like almost straight up, 1500 feet elevation change.

Anyhow we have this turkey roosted right at the base of the mountain, about 50 yards from the meadow. We get in early and set up across from him. Daylight comes and he's gobbling good. He pitches down into the meadow and he's about 150 yards. We have decoys but he's down in a little crease and he can't see our spread.

After a while a couple of hens come join him. It's not looking good for us. More hens start yelping and filtering out of the woods. We are yelping. Hens are yelping. He's gobbling. Lots of activity.

And then we can hear this strange sound. Like a jet engine. This roar. And it's getting louder. And I eventually look up, and there's a gobbler cupped like a mallard. In full descent. Terminal velocity. Falling straight down from the top of the mountain.

This bastard has to be going 50 miles an hour. He flies right by our tree and I get my head turned just in time to see him hit the ground about 30 feet behind us. He bounces 6 feet in the air, tumbles, and skids to a stop in a big pile of dust and feathers. I think he's dead.

He eventually stands up and shakes himself off. And gobbles! I'm on that side of the tree, and I'm so astonished that I never thought to shoot him.

He eventually circles around us and gets out into the pasture and fights the other gobbler. And they move off with the hens.

We come back yesterday afternoon and set up and one of the two comes back and gets shot. So one turkey on the board.

But "The Bomber" is one we'll never forget. Glad there were three of us there to witness it.


This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:38 pm to
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This bastard has to be going 50 miles an hour. He flies right by our tree and I get my head turned just in time to see him hit the ground about 30 feet behind us. He bounces 6 feet in the air, tumbles, and skids to a stop in a big pile of dust and feathers. I think he's dead.
The ladies make us do some real stupid things.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:11 pm to
Great series. Thanks for posting. I feel like I am there with you guys. My bad luck clearly is with you.

You need a really good prayer or Indian blessing to rid yourself of Turkey curse. (Lol)
Posted by dpier16
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:49 pm to
Just got into Kalispell yesterday and got tags today. The amount of public land and private lands open to public access is mind numbing.

So used to everything back home (SELA) being timber company-that's leased out- or select few WMA's that get hit hard.

Open land up here is everywhere you look. Just in region 1 (Kalispell/Flathead/Whitefish) there is 730k acres of private land (timber companies) that allow public access not including other public lands.

Been on phone with FWP probably 6 times making sure that what I'm reading/hunting is actually public.

Glad y'all got on some birds. Weather is awesome up here now: 65 during day and 40s at night.
Posted by dpier16
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:50 pm to
If you have any tips they'd be greatly appreciated. So much land it's hard to even figure out how to attack it all.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:16 pm to



Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:20 pm to
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If you have any tips they'd be greatly appreciated. So much land it's hard to even figure out how to attack it all.



I would focus on private land with open pastures and areas where you can see turkeys from the road. That's what we have been doing. Basically just riding around private land, looking for turkeys, and knocking on doors asking for permission. We have about 75% success rate on permission. One lady told us the turkeys were her pets. One man said he didn't allow any hunting. One man said he was a caretaker for "a bunch of damn lawyers from New York" who won't allow anyone on their place. Every other person said Yes.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:23 pm to
The only other advice I have is: "remember that they gobble in the afternoon". We roosted turkeys every afternoon. Up around Kalispell they won't be going to roost until 9:00 or so. And they will gobble until nearly 10 pm.
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