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Louisiana's Specks Five Years Later--a fishing guides take on impact of BP spill

Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:56 am
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:56 am
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I ran across this article reading this link in the Mississippi saltwater LINK forum. Chris Bush is advocating for more tagging and taking few larger trout from the fishery.
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Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:17 pm to
It would be nice to see CCA lead the charge by removing the bounty on our breeders. Remove the incentive for killing big trout. Lead by example, right?

I get there are no laws against keeping mule trout but I can't help but think that it would set a huge example if CCA urged it's members to self impose a slot limit.

The recreational fishing population is getting bigger everyday. We can only catch and release into grease for so long. Something has to give.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5810 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:23 pm to
There should be some sort of slot or limit on number of fish you can keep over a certain size I agree..it makes sense to keep the biggest fish alive, or most of them
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:28 pm to
I think a strict limit from Fourchon to the La./Ms. line needs to be instituted right now based on all the scientific evidence that is coming out daily showing the fishery is in trouble. 10 Specks per day with a 1 over 20. Guides aren't allowed to keep trout on a guided trip. Also should institute a limit on White trout and croakers too because their populations have really fallen off since 2010.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:28 pm to
I would be fine with no minimum and maybe 5 over say 20". You would have less throwback kills and limit the number of 4+ lb fish taken.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Also should institute a limit on White trout and croakers too because their populations have really fallen off since 2010.


I would think commercial shrimp trawlers are to blame for the absence of croaker and white trout.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:33 pm to
My personal opinion as seen through my eyes over the last 11 years in Terrebonne is that the fishery can handle a 25per limit pretty well, but there's just really no point in having it that high.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5810 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:36 pm to
I dont mind the 25 and i think the fishery can handle that

i do like the idea of guides not being able to count themselves towards the 25, each customer gets 25 and only 1 over 21 inches or whatever, i dont know the right number
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4066 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:41 pm to
I catch trout over 20" pretty common. and it seems the fishery can sustain a 25 fish limit. if any of yall want to keep 10 fish, then go for it, but I'll continue to keep what I legally can.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5810 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:47 pm to
no one told you to stop haha, im keeping 25 too
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1028 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

think a strict limit from Fourchon to the La./Ms. line needs to be instituted right now based on all the scientific evidence that is coming out daily showing the fishery is in trouble


Can you provide a link for this? I have actually heard the opposite about speckled trout.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:48 pm to
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if any of yall want to keep 10 fish, then go for it, but I'll continue to keep what I legally can.


This is the mentality we need to work to change. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

My personal opinion as seen through my eyes over the last 11 years in Terrebonne is that the fishery can handle a 25per limit pretty well


agreed. Geeze, wasn't it just two years ago when everyone was hammering the trout out of Terrebonne Parish? Seems I can remember threads where people were claiming the trout were unbelievably thick- and claimed the BP spill had helped as it kept fishermen out of the water when it happened. I have a hard time believing the resource can't sustain itself becasue sport fishermen are putting too much pressure on them.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:50 pm to
SPOTTED SEATROUT
180. CRC Press. 2003. Biology of the Spotted Seatrout.
181. CRC Press. 2014. Impacts of Oil Spill Disasters on Marine Habitats
and Fisheries in North America.
182. Journal of Toxicology & Environmental Health. 2013. Gene expression
and growth as indicators of effects of the BP Deepwater Horizon oil
spill on spotted seatrout (Synoscion nebulosus).
183. Journal of Sea Research. 2009. Modeling fish growth and
reproduction in the context of the Dynamic Energy Budget theory to
predict environmental impact on anchovy spawning duration.
184. CRC Press. 2014. Impacts of Oil Spill Disasters on Marine Habitats
and Fisheries in North America.
185. CRC Press. 2014. Impacts of Oil Spill Disasters on Marine Habitats
and Fisheries in North America.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19610 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:51 pm to
Yes you need to provide a link BC what your saying directly contradicts the states fisheries findings.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1028 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:51 pm to
Not links that discuss the impact of oil on speckled trout..... links that show that the speckled trout fishery is in trouble.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:52 pm to
Read the links to the blog and click on the whitepaper.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:53 pm to
Based on my personal experience with catching speckled trout, there are only a handful out there.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:54 pm to
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.


look, I appreciate your conservation perspective. But some things are better left to individual choice. Way too much money, time, and effort is expended to make anyone feel guilty for keeping 25 specks. I'm all for keeping less if YOU wan to do so. But I think it should be an individual's choice.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15190 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:56 pm to
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feel guilty for keeping 25 specks


What about a group of 5 keeping 125? If everyone keeps 25, those numbers could get out of hand really fast.
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