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Looking to buy a German Shepherd for Christmas

Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:23 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10422 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:23 pm
I’m on the AKC finder website. There aren’t many options in this area and most breeders don’t ship puppies. Most of them on this site have the dams and sires listed followed by an id like this:
Sire: Beaux Jangles Dephillips (DN46284506)
Dam: Charlie Jean Dephillips (DN40428104)

But some of them don’t have any google results. So my question is I’m not sure what to do with those names. I want to make sure I research their bloodline. Here are my results for 250 from my house. I am looking for a sable female puppy.

Link

Any tips?
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:57 pm to
Yes...don't do it. And definitely don't do it based on the AKC website.

What do you like about GSDs? What do you want from your dog? Just a best bud or personal protection, running buddy? German Shepherds can be great, my favorite breed in fact, but careless breeding has practically ruined them. Health problems,"nerve" problems (temperament), lots of poor examples of the breed out there.

If you like a German Shepherd for what they are supposed to be (aloof, intelligent, hard, moderate to high drive, very stable nerve), then seek out a working GSD breeder. If you just like the look but could care less about the rest, don't get one, or get a rescue.

Anyone who buys any dog from any breeder should insist on health testing of parents. For GSDs that would include OFA hips and elbows at a minimum.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
814 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:03 pm to
Don't rush, you should've been researching for a while to line this up. Timing for Christmas would be nice, but get the right dog and take your time.
Posted by bogart
Member since Dec 2013
1203 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:23 pm to
Is the life's expectancy only 7-10 years?
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10422 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:37 pm to
Definitely not just the looks. I have researched so much on the right dog for us and keep coming back to the GSD. I love the loyalty, the energy (we’re very active), the protection factor is huge. I can’t seem to find many breeders around with legit websites. In this day in age if you’re best website is a Facebook page that hasn’t been updated in 2 years, chances are I’m not going to give you my business.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
814 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:49 pm to
I researched my latest dog for a long time, spoke with breeders all over the states. My dog came from OH, flown down an I picked up at the airport. Serious breeders understand the demand for their dogs, will interview potential purchasers, and shipping is common.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 7:54 pm
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:05 pm to
Loyalty and protective instict can be a problem the hands of the wrong person, or an unsocialized dog, so be sure you are ready to put in the work.

And websites are great and all but a good breeder has their dogs sold before they are even born, so there's not huge incentive to have the spiffiest page...

That said I'll try to post some good breeder pages up in a bit. Odds of getting a pup for Christmas are sounds to none.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:07 pm to
No real tips but they are absolutely incredible creatures.
Posted by Lynyrd
Under the Tilt-a-Whirl
Member since Jun 2010
13175 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:08 pm to
Some can be quite protective. I had one that hid behind me at the vet and he said it was a trait or something in a protective one. Mine was a son of a police dog. Very smart, but did not like folks not in his knowledge. Integrate the puppy with all kinds of people and animals early. I didn't.
Posted by RickfromArizona
Sonoran Desert
Member since Sep 2013
366 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:13 pm to
I’ve had many friends who have wanted a Shepard but have ultimately opted for a German Malinois. She should definitely look into this breed.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:25 pm to
Google, "Old World German Shepherd breeders". These are the straight back shepherds and they are much healthier in my opinion.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5978 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:26 pm to
Glad you have many friends since you lost one this week.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30800 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

German Malinois


Damn those must be expensive and rare.

Usually, see the less expensive and less rare Belgian Malinois for sale.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19608 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:29 pm to
I have a doberman and absolutely love him. Is very friendly but also protective when it calls for it. We had GSD growing up and a good friend has two right now I wouldn't trade them for my doberman. Another breed to think about.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4590 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:19 pm to
Where you located, Van Rich?

I can provide you some reputable breeders in TN for a working line Shepherd. I’m in north MS and protection work has become a passion of mine.

Let me caution you though, be prepared to spend thousands on a dog like this. And be prepared to devote a lot of time (at least 3-4 hours a day, every single day) to a dog like this.
These types of dogs are also not bought on impulse or as a gift. People usually interview several breeders and can wait a year for the right puppy. What you want is for a breeder to ask you what you’re looking for and pair you with the correct litter being breed based on the side ans bitch’s genes, then help you select the right pup from such

If this isn’t a commitment you can make, then there are plenty of good Shepherds that are available for adoption.

(FYI, I see you are wanting a sable Shepherd, those are mostly of the working line breed)
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 10:26 pm
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:19 pm to
Aldamar

Check them out. My next dog will be from there. I toured the kennel and checked out all the dogs.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 11:22 pm
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3921 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:23 pm to
I got my first German Shepherd a year ago. He's really smart and you have to devote time to them. With their intelligence, they get bored easily. My dog wasn't from a working line, but still has a lot of energy. They need lots of exercise and shed like crazy. Mine is short to medium haired and if I don't sweep for awhile my floor looks like a barber shop floor. Escpecially in the spring and fall when he sheds the most. Mine is protective but hasn't met a person he doesn't like. He's freakishly athletic and loves my cat. The cat hates him. Outstanding dogs but are a lot of work too.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30800 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 7:08 am to
I had one when I was little. The shedding is crazy and youll have to brush them a lot. A lot of energy and very smart. We couldnt keep ours in a kennel. She would destroy them.

We would actually shave her in the summer because of the heat.

I made a jok about the Malinois earlier, but their coat is shorter. Might look into those.

You could probably look up Southern Mals on Facebook. I know the guy, he was bringing them from europe I think and trainimg them in Abita. I dont think he os doing it anymore, but send him a message on Facebook and he should respond.

I'm hooked on boxers, especially with a 4 year old. Those dogs are just goofy and playful.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10422 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 7:33 am to
3-4 hours a day seems excessive. So my typical day would be wake up at 5 to get ready. Play with him from 6-7 and get an hour in before I leave for work, then I get home at 6 so then play with him until 9. I guess I’ll forget about eating dinner and spending any kind of time with my family.

None of my research says anything even close to this amount. Most say 1-1.5 hours.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 7:34 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 8:05 am to
quote:

(FYI, I see you are wanting a sable Shepherd, those are mostly of the working line breed)


Yep, seem to be less intense.

My Shepherd required about an hour to two hours a day of play.
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