re: Looking at getting a new scope for my hunting rifle

Good thing the crosshairs aren't on the edge!

I have an SWFA 3-15 which is by all accounts some really shite glass, and it's perfectly serviceable within legal shooting hours.

If you want sexy glass, spend it on binoculars or a spotting scope. You'll get much more utility for your money.

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Good thing the crosshairs aren't on the edge!

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exactly

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you want sexy glass, spend it on binoculars

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I bought 12x42 monarch probably 15 years. I feel like they’re not as clear as the once were, but they’ve served me well for that long, but I’m looking to swap them out, partly because I just want 8x, but I’d also like some more compact 30ish objective binoculars

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You don't need to be outside to see the difference. It's that obvious

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, congrats on being sold by a 17yo at the counter. Uniform edge to edge clarity is why they pop, which doesn’t matter because a rifle scopes focus is centered on the crosshairs. So yeah the glass is better, but it’s wasted

If that's all you want, that's perfectly ok. But just admit, it gets better than that. A lot better.

I just pulled an $800 meopta off my .30-06 I’m going to replace with $300 Leupold. I have a Zeiss on my 7mag.

I bought into the hype as a dumb impressionable young man, listening to people who said what was necessary at the camp. Those scopes do the exact same thing the swift does on my .35 Remington, and the same thing my Simmons 44 mag did on my .243 almost 30 years ago, the same one that now my kid will be using to kill his first deer.

So if given the opportunity to educate people on scopes from a practicality stand point based on my past mistakes, that’s what I’m gonna do

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lol I saw your comments about rokslide, those drop test are pretty scientific unless the ol boy is sponsored by NF and trijicon. Internet is loaded with ford/chevy arguments and everyone has their brand.

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I could nitpick the inconsistency in the testing between different scopes, dropping them on packed snow vs soft dirt etc, but my biggest gripe with Form’s testing is that it’s just not practical for the vast majority of hunters. He’s on record saying he doesn’t believe there’s a non-dialing “hunting” scope (SFP) under $1K on the market that would pass these tests. It’s a little suspect to me that he hasn’t tested any of the nightforce SHVs, the ones that are built and priced more like you work for a living. That to me gets to the root of it, that for the last 100 years it’s been fairly well understood you shouldn’t drop your rifle 3ft onto a hard surface 9 times in a row and expect it to still hold to within .2 mils of the previous zero.

I wouldn’t drop my 30-30 directly on the iron sights and expect them to be exactly where I left them, and I wouldn’t saw on my bow string with a broadhead and call it not durable if it snapped. Yes, there are some ridiculously expensive scopes he’s tested that have failed and if I were in the market for a 3lb bomb proof scope if would be a nightforce, but common sense gets left in the rear view when the conclusion is there are only two brands of scope that function as a gun sight. I haven’t backpack hunted for elk so I get it, that’s a big consideration when taking the shot of a lifetime, but at some point I wonder if y’all shouldn’t be looking at a $75 sling.