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Let's talk about saddle hunting
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:19 pm
Very interested in getting into this. I like the idea of the mobility and lightweight advantages. Any of you run a saddle regularly? After doing a bit of research, to get everything one would need would be around $500 or so. While that's a pretty big investment, I feel like I could save a lot of time and money in the future running a saddle system. The whole thing seems safer, too. Any personal experience y'all might have to offer is appreciated.
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:24 pm to beHop
Are you talking about hunting from a horse?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:26 pm to beHop
comme ca?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:44 pm to lowhound
See jimbeam's picture...
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:49 pm to beHop
This is my second season out of one. Spent 150 to get started on a diy clone I built and made a platform that mounts to my top muddy pro. Wanted to build one to make sure it was gonna work for me before I dove in head first. Now I run a mantis and predator platform with 4 muddy pros. Step aiders on the bottom 2 get me to 20’ without much effort. It’s not for everyone. Comfort is subjective so don’t go into it thinking it’s gonna be like setting in your summit. Im sure you’ve been through saddlehunter.com. There is so much info there it took me 2 years to go through it all.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:58 pm to beHop
quote:once i heard about it i thought this should be a very cheap way to hunt. boy was i wrong. Tethrd is straight ripping people off for a $300 saddle made from 3 dollars worth of nylon.
After doing a bit of research, to get everything one would need would be around $500 or so.
I like the Tetherd for how light it is, i think the aero hunter looks better and more comfortable. And i think the JX3 Hybird looks the most comfortable with how it is a seat.
i think the JX3 is the only one that warrants its price.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:10 pm to SmokinJoe
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Im sure you’ve been through saddlehunter.com. There is so much info there it took me 2 years to go through it all.
I have. And yes, it's overwhelming. As to the cost mentioned, I was shocked too. I've seen the G2 guy's DIY setup out of the Sitdrag. Is that what you did starting out?
The Predator platform looks solid, but I found the EZY tree scaffold which is steps on a strap that look sturdy for $60 which is a little better than the $170 for the Pred.
Do you like the muddy pros? I was looking at the Hawk Heliums.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:26 pm to SmokinJoe
I hunted one for a season certain I would enjoy it, for mobility, stealth, and cost savings.
The seat was fairly comfortable but the size fit is important. Too big or small and it is uncomfortable quick.
However, all of your weight is constantly pushing into the trunk of the tree. Standing still for extended periods of time with your weight on a simple peg puts a lot of strain on your knees and feet. Allowing yourself to sit and press knees into the tree is an option but requires knee pads. Even then, your knees get pretty sore after 1 much less 3 hrs sitting still pressing against a tree. And making a shot with a bow will require you to lean back away from the tree first which is a lot of movement.
On smaller trunk trees (under 12") my movement even if silent and slow would cause the weight to shift and the tree to shake above.
As far as durability, I got the mesh bottom tree saddle and found the elastic parts stretched out after 1 yr. Unfortunately they are not easily replaceable. The mesh was good for air flow and for hunts in the rain but would tend to give waffle butt when hunting in warmer weather and thin pants. The leather may break in like an old pair of boots though and be more comfortable but less air flow in warm weather. The actual straps were very durable and have not worn out at all.
The seat was fairly comfortable but the size fit is important. Too big or small and it is uncomfortable quick.
However, all of your weight is constantly pushing into the trunk of the tree. Standing still for extended periods of time with your weight on a simple peg puts a lot of strain on your knees and feet. Allowing yourself to sit and press knees into the tree is an option but requires knee pads. Even then, your knees get pretty sore after 1 much less 3 hrs sitting still pressing against a tree. And making a shot with a bow will require you to lean back away from the tree first which is a lot of movement.
On smaller trunk trees (under 12") my movement even if silent and slow would cause the weight to shift and the tree to shake above.
As far as durability, I got the mesh bottom tree saddle and found the elastic parts stretched out after 1 yr. Unfortunately they are not easily replaceable. The mesh was good for air flow and for hunts in the rain but would tend to give waffle butt when hunting in warmer weather and thin pants. The leather may break in like an old pair of boots though and be more comfortable but less air flow in warm weather. The actual straps were very durable and have not worn out at all.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:26 pm to beHop
Depends on where you are hunting. For the Midwest with crooked trees, it’s a great idea. For the South, I prefer a climber.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:28 pm to beHop
That's a FNO from this fatbody.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:51 pm to beHop
I actually tought myself to sew and built a kestrel clone. There are several walk throughs on SH. Sit drag looked painful.
I’ve had just about every stick made including beast sticks but keep going back to the muddy. I just like the way they work with the cam cleat. I also run the hawks with amsteel daisy chain on a versa button.
If you have any DIY skills at all you can get into it under 150$. That should give you enough to decide if it something you want to continue with or scratch.
I’ve had just about every stick made including beast sticks but keep going back to the muddy. I just like the way they work with the cam cleat. I also run the hawks with amsteel daisy chain on a versa button.
If you have any DIY skills at all you can get into it under 150$. That should give you enough to decide if it something you want to continue with or scratch.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:00 pm to SmokinJoe
Good info. Thanks.
BP did you give it up?
BP did you give it up?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:11 pm to beHop
I knew some baws that ran them. They didn’t have platform or sticks. They used spikes and spiked up then sat in it or stood the whole hunt. It was called a “guido” I believe. Better be in shape if you spike. I did it for a couple years and said forget it.
Edit: Called Guido’s Web
Edit: Called Guido’s Web
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:25 pm to Outdoorreb
Yeah I’m not interested in scarring up trees.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:42 pm to beHop
You can use sticks also
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:50 pm to beHop
I’m saddle hunting for the first time this season. Have been practicing but haven’t used it yet. Trying to get out Thursday afternoon. I’m using an H2 Saddle and a Out On A Limb Ridge Runner platform
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:55 pm to beHop
I'm just curious...from those familiar with saddles, what exactly is the difference between a saddle and a rock climbing harness?
I know a guy that uses a rock climbing harness instead of a safety harness. Just curious why there aren't more people doing that, because those aren't nearly as expensive as a saddle.
I know a guy that uses a rock climbing harness instead of a safety harness. Just curious why there aren't more people doing that, because those aren't nearly as expensive as a saddle.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:41 pm to beHop
It’s my first season in the saddle
Hang and hunt is the truth
Very comfortable for me
Hang and hunt is the truth
Very comfortable for me
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:43 pm to Cowboyfan89
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st curious...from those familiar with saddles, what exactly is the difference between a saddle and a rock climbing harness
A saddle will be more comfortable than just a rock climbing harness. Im using a sit drag saddle with a rock climbing harness.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:03 pm to beHop
For hunting yes, I gave it up. I still love that harness for hanging stands though. It is the most secure feeling harness I have.
I would like to try again at some point but have to find a way to make it more comfortable on the knees and feet. I was using the screw 8n steps, then tried some cam buckle integrated steps, and finally settled on muddly stagger steps. Maybe using some sort of platform would help.
Btw, forgot to mention that a screw in bow holder is basically required with the harness as holding the bow in your lap is impossible. In ladder stands and lock-ons I typically hold the bow in my lap with an arrow nocked and ready to go.
I would like to try again at some point but have to find a way to make it more comfortable on the knees and feet. I was using the screw 8n steps, then tried some cam buckle integrated steps, and finally settled on muddly stagger steps. Maybe using some sort of platform would help.
Btw, forgot to mention that a screw in bow holder is basically required with the harness as holding the bow in your lap is impossible. In ladder stands and lock-ons I typically hold the bow in my lap with an arrow nocked and ready to go.
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