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Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:36 pm to nerd guy
Would someone explain a turret press to me. Are there any benefits of a turret over progressive besides price?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:38 pm to bapple
While we're on this subject, powder? I've got like 4 lbs. of various rifle powder in decently sealed containers. The contents shakes easily, think it's OK? It's 25+ years old.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:42 pm to QuietTiger
Y'all ever heard of or used "bayou bullets"? Their prices are really good and people on bayoushooter seem to like em.
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:45 pm to Uncle JackD
I'll have to stop by their shop. I'm always in gramercy.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:56 pm to Uncle JackD
The RCBS press you're looking at is a typical "single stage press." There is ONE die in the press. You can do whatever step in the reloading process that can be done w/ that ONE die. If it's the full length resizing die, each complete stroke of the handle will remove the primer, restore the brass to preshot (factory) dimensions and insert a primer (if you have it set up to do this). To do the other steps of the process, you remove the first die and install the next die.
W/ a turret process, all the dies for a caliber are inserted in a metal plate (turret). First complete stroke does same steps as above, but the turret rotates to the second die. This die can be set up to drop powder charge. Turret next rotates to third die. This die seats the bullet.
A turret press is about 2X faster than a single stage press. A progressive press is like a turret press on steroids as it's MUCH faster. OTOH, a progressive press is much more expensive. I think a progressive or single stage press is good for those who are new to handloading.
Dillon is #1 progressive press maker but shipments are running 6-8 weeks behind. LINK
I bet YouTube has some videos of turret press use, but I can't access it right not.
W/ a turret process, all the dies for a caliber are inserted in a metal plate (turret). First complete stroke does same steps as above, but the turret rotates to the second die. This die can be set up to drop powder charge. Turret next rotates to third die. This die seats the bullet.
A turret press is about 2X faster than a single stage press. A progressive press is like a turret press on steroids as it's MUCH faster. OTOH, a progressive press is much more expensive. I think a progressive or single stage press is good for those who are new to handloading.
Dillon is #1 progressive press maker but shipments are running 6-8 weeks behind. LINK
I bet YouTube has some videos of turret press use, but I can't access it right not.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 4:58 pm to QuietTiger
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While we're on this subject, powder? I've got like 4 lbs. of various rifle powder in decently sealed containers. The contents shakes easily, think it's OK? It's 25+ years old.
As long as it doesn't smell bad and hasn't ever been wet, it should be fine. I loaded some pistol rounds with 40+ year old powder recently. It was very flashy, very dirty, and the pressures varied greatly but it all fired and that's what I wanted. Just make sure to start your loads on the low end with old powder. New powder technology has come a long way.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:00 pm to bapple
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Just make sure to start your loads on the low end with old powder. New powder technology has come a long way.
Yeah well, I've got the old books too so it'll even out.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:29 pm to QuietTiger
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Just make sure to start your loads on the low end with old powder. New powder technology has come a long way.
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Yeah well, I've got the old books too so it'll even out.
Be careful w/ some of those old books. I've got a lot of old handloading books, as well. A lot of the mid-range loads in those books exceed max loads in today's data manuals. Be sure you have some current data, as well.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:35 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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A lot of the mid-range loads in those books exceed max loads
The .357's did seem a little hot, but? I'll definitely heed your advice. Rifle cartridges always made me a little nervous, especially 88 gr. of powder in one load.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:45 pm to QuietTiger
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especially 88 gr. of powder in one load.
DAMN that's a lot. The heaviest charge I've ever seen was 74.2gr of Alliant Reloader 22 in 300 Win Mag.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:04 pm to bapple
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DAMN that's a lot
No shite. It was an 8mm Rem Mag and I'm pretty sure that was the load. Cartridge looked close to 4" loaded.
Fun to shoot.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:12 pm to QuietTiger
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Fun to shoot.
Not for your shoulder.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:28 pm to bapple
It was sort of masochistic, but I enjoy recoil. What can I say.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:51 pm to QuietTiger
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:58 pm to Uncle JackD
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Is this a decent deal?
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If it were 4 months ago the answer would be, HELL no.
But now, I guess double the price may be the norm.
Also tack on about $20-$25 for Hazmat shipping.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 7:25 am to Uncle JackD
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How many rounds can you reload in an hour when using the rockchucker? A buddy and I are debating whether to get a single stage or go with a progressive.
Single or progressive press/
If one is loading a shite load for pistals, go with the progressive system. If loading say just a few hundred at a time, a single will do. Once you have all brass cleaned ans sized/trimed. I can press out a few hunderd rounds an hour.
Trays are needed, and I talking a bunch of them. A good light is a must to check casing before powder charging and after powder charging. A good mic is needed for checking the size of your used or even new brass. Harbor Freight has a good one that goes on sale now and then for under $15.
A good tumbler or a cheap one. I make due with a cheap one that I bought from midway for under $30, but that was a good 15 years ago. Still works great, but it's loud. No biggie, my crap is in my work shop 150' from the house. I just load it up after a days shooting and let it rip till the next day.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 1:51 pm to Uncle JackD
Unless you're looking for primers at ANY cost and have to have them NOW, that's an INdecent deal. $60/1000 + shipping + $27.50 haz mat fee=prolly about $95/1000=expensive primers. I've never used a Wolf primer. They may be great or they may not....... Pawn shop in Bossier is selling main brand primers for $60/1000. For price comparison, Remington 7 1/2 (small rifle) Benchrest primers are $35/1000 and Federal Benchrest small rifle primers are $40/1000, although both are out of stock. LINK
Posted on 3/12/13 at 2:56 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
I kick myself in the arse daily for not stocking up on primers when things were calm. I would buy just what I wanted to load right then. now I have had to resort to screwing with my powder loads to accomodate magnum primers which seem to be the only ones I can find local not a big deal but a pain none the less
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