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LDWF Turkey Restocking Program
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:28 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:28 am
Does this still happen?
The LDWF still has an application on their website. I've seen small mentions of Texas still doing this in the eastern part of the state but can't find anything mentioning that Louisiana still does this.
The LDWF still has an application on their website. I've seen small mentions of Texas still doing this in the eastern part of the state but can't find anything mentioning that Louisiana still does this.
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:10 am to Datfish
Not often. Presently, eastern restocking is taking place in east Texas and some states in the northeast. There are some areas that are now trapping turkeys and moving them from one area to another, but those are done within the individual states.
The NWTF hasn't aggressively trapped and transferred since shortly after 2000. That's when turkeys had been reestablished to all suitable habitats within the Continental US.
The NWTF hasn't aggressively trapped and transferred since shortly after 2000. That's when turkeys had been reestablished to all suitable habitats within the Continental US.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:23 am to Datfish
We desperately need to though. I have seen a considerable decrease in turkey numbers where I hunt in South LA over the past 5 years. The increase in hogs and wet summers have been killing (no pun intended) our poult production.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:26 am to Datfish
They need to start robbing nests and incubate the poults where they'll have a chance. With all the corn feeders across the state, we've created a coon/possum/coyote factory that gives the turkeys less of a chance of ever hatching.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:30 am to tenfoe
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They need to start robbing nests and incubate the poults where they'll have a chance.
Do the chicks stand a chance in the wild without a hen to teach them how to survive?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:34 am to wickowick
As long as they aren't handled too much they're still wild turkeys. Turkeys hatched on a farm and released when they can fly stand a better chance of making it to a yr old than an egg hatched by a hen in the wild.
I don't have scientific proof of this. Just making it up, but I bet if you took 100 eggs hatched in the wild vs 100 hatched on a farm and re-released when they have all their feathers you'd end up with better survivability in the farm raised ones.
I don't have scientific proof of this. Just making it up, but I bet if you took 100 eggs hatched in the wild vs 100 hatched on a farm and re-released when they have all their feathers you'd end up with better survivability in the farm raised ones.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:44 am to tenfoe
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They need to start robbing nests and incubate the poults where they'll have a chance.
This has been proven time and time again to not work and be a complete waste of money. That is why state's don't do it anymore.
Joe Hutto had the closest thing to success you could get with this method, and even most of his birds died.
They just can't replicate the impact the hen has on development and survival.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:48 am to wickowick
Read the book, "Illumination in the Flatwoods"... Its about a guy who finds a brood of poults in the wild and raises them for a year and tells about his experiences. Super insightful about the habits and tendencies of wild turkeys and will even help you understand them better when you hunt them in the Spring.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:49 am to Cowboyfan89
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They just can't replicate the impact the hen has on development and survival.
Unless they are raised with a hen.
Thanks for the downvote.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:50 am to keyboard_warrior9
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"Illumination in the Flatwoods"
Great book.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:54 am to tenfoe
Will a hen renest if she loses a clutch? I wonder if you could high fence some acreage and have hens with clipped wings, let them raise chicks and then relocate the chicks when they are of age. I know with quail, the chicks imprint on the first animals they see when hatched. Surrogate moms...
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:54 am to tenfoe
I might be wrong but I also think there is a PBS documentary that is either about the book or complements it. I havent seen it in a while so im not 100% positive on that statement.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:56 am to wickowick
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wonder if you could high fence some acreage and have hens with clipped wings
a high fence and predator control are absolutely amazing for turkey production
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:56 am to keyboard_warrior9
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a PBS documentary that is either about the book or complements it. I havent seen it in a while so im not 100% positive on that statement.
It might not be PBS, but you are correct there is a documentary.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:57 am to wickowick
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I wonder if you could high fence some acreage and have hens with clipped wings, let them raise chicks and then relocate the chicks when they are of age.
Its almost impossible to do. You are taking the hens most valuable survival asset when you do this. no matter how high of a fence, you will always have predators eager for an easy meal.
ETA: but I do agree with tenfoe that predator management is the best course of action
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:00 am to wickowick
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Will a hen renest if she loses a clutch?
Yes, and hens that re-nest after the first one is destroyed have generally higher survivability in their poults due to increased cover and food availability.
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Surrogate moms...
It would work. It just costs money to do it. Money that people would rather spend on banquets.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:04 am to keyboard_warrior9
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You are taking the hens most valuable survival asset when you do this.
You don't have to clip their wings if in a fence. They don't like flying over them. They might accidentally fly over one going to or coming from roost, but I've seen many get "trapped" in a high fence because they walk up to it and just aren't programmed to fly over 8' fences.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:07 am to tenfoe
Coons are a huge problem on quail nest, I bet they are for turkeys also...
Spotlight on Quail Predators: Raccoons and Nest Depredation
Spotlight on Quail Predators: Raccoons and Nest Depredation
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Researchers attempt to determine the perpetrator of nest depredation events based on either eggshell evidence or camera footage. One west Texas study that utilized remotely-triggered cameras for nest surveillance found that raccoons were responsible for 91% of depredations in simulated quail nests (Hernandez et al. 1997). Similar studies along the border of Florida and Georgia found raccoons to be the most significant mammalian predators of quail nests, making up between 5-29% of depredations over a two year period. Most of these nest raids occurred at night and involved a raccoon removing eggs from the nest with its front paws or mouth, then remaining at the nest while eating its meal (Staller et al. 2005).
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:09 am to wickowick
Edit: Removed this text because I couldn't find the citation, and am uncertain about the claim put forth.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:12 am to Sasquatch Smash
Turkey hunters should get a tag only after they have killed 20 coons.
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