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John Deere Z225 Starting Problem.

Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:53 pm
The last time I cut my grass, mower was running perfect. About 5 days later I try to start and all I get is the starter solenoid clicking. I have changed the following:

Starting solenoid
Battery
Relay
Brake switch
Starter
PTO switch

ETA: Seat switch changed too.

All the wiring looks good, but it is not getting power to the starter. Still making the same noise when I turn the ignition. Any ideas before I have to take it to the shop?
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:10 pm to
Have you checked the switch that is engaged when you are sit on the seat?

I would think its ok since the solenoid clicks though
Posted by blucollarskolar
Member since Sep 2014
273 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:52 pm to
Have you checked the power at the key switch?
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20348 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

ave you checked the power at the key switch?


I would check here and also.


Probably should check the deadman seat switch. Some models allow the motor to turn over but won't start if the deadman switch is out.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Have you checked the switch that is engaged when you are sit on the seat?



Forgot to list that one, but I have changed it as well.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Have you checked the power at the key switch?


I will check when I get home tonight.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15083 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:23 pm to
Take the spark plug(s) out and then try to crank it over. The carb needle and seat can leak fuel into the engine causing it to hydro(gas) lock.

You could also pull the oil dip stick and see if the oil smells like gas but not as reliable as removing the spark plugs.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:23 pm to
Can you get the starter to spin if you turn the key on and just bypass the solenoid with jumper cables?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:32 pm to
Have you tested anything with a multimeter?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20348 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:32 pm to
Someone has to ask...

Do you have gas in there?

Pull the spark plug and turn the engine over. If you see a spark, you have a fuel problem.

If no spark... you are doing just about everything you can do.
Posted by rgsa
La.
Member since May 2015
2358 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:46 pm to
Fuse or safety switch bad maybe. Let us know what you find.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28502 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:59 pm to
i would test every connection with a multimeter to make sure you are getting good power at every interval. hell, maybe a broke wire somewhere along the way.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Do you have gas in there?


Full tank, the starter isn't getting power.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Can you get the starter to spin if you turn the key on and just bypass the solenoid with jumper cables?



Yes.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Have you tested anything with a multimeter?


Not yet. I was hoping it was a simple switch gone bad type deal.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55981 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:07 pm to
I know you said you have replaced the battery, but I would put a load test on the new one, as I have had brand new batteries go bad before and your problem sounds like a bad battery to me.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:48 pm to
Instead of swapping so many parts, you should've picked up a decent multimeter and checked stuff out. Hindsight
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15083 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:05 pm to
Have you taken the spark plug out and tried too see if the engine will turn over?
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:25 am to
Since the starter will spin if you bypass the solenoid, The problem has to be between the solenoid and the battery I'd think. Are you sure the battery has a full charge? I know its new but sometimes they don't always come charged 100%.

Check all the connections and make sure they are tight and corrosion free.

Also, could be possible you just got a defective new solenoid.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:37 pm to
Problem fixed. I had the new battery tested and it was bad. The hardware store swapped it out for me and I put in the battery, but I had the same issue except I was finally getting power to the starter.

I rechecked all my wiring and it ended up being a ground underneath the motor that appeared to be bolted down, but when I tugged the crap out of it loosened up. Tightened the ground and it fired right up.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
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