re: I'm currently reading about the Lewis and Clarke expedition (archery related)

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I'm pretty much blind so I switched to crossbow this year after 15 years of bow hunting.

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Totally different issue.

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With hunter numbers declining I'm glad a lot of folks are able to get in to it.

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Crossbows aren't doing anything in this regard.

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Let's be honest here: the only reason it's a legal archery weapon is the additional licenses states can sell to people that weren't hunting during archery season.

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like i said...hunter numbers are declining. they have to get their revenue somehow.

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You sit there the same as a gun hunter with a pre-cocked loaded weapon and probably scoped (Not a knock on your eyesight, but most sold have a scope sitting on them). You put crosshairs on animal and pull trigger. Very little yardage compensation needed (if any). No need to stand and draw with the animal in close proximity. No need to hold at full draw if animal shifts or while waiting for optimum shot angle.

So no, standing isn’t the only thing there chief....

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^^^ This. all this.

Disclaimer: my father got a crossbow after he had his neck surgery. he's recovered, so now my 6 yr old daughter will use it this year during bow season. I see the benefits of a crossbow...













For crippled old men and little girls.

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What the frick is wrong with a crossbow?

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nothing is wrong with a crossbow. If you can't accurately shoot a bow it's more ethical.

lol i'm getting tired of fishing. i want blood.

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If you can't accurately shoot a bow it's more ethical.

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In that case, I’ll just use a rifle during bow season. It’s more accurate than both, hence “more ethical.”

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I’m all for crossbows for folks that need them. Disability, age, vision impaired , youth etc.

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With this logic you should not be using a compound bow. Why do you need a compound bow when a recurve does the same thing?

I think that is the point of the Original claim

Jeebus that is some dumb reasoning. Why do you get to decide what the right way is? How do you guarantee that somebody is practicing their bow?? The one good argument against crossbow hunting only holds water if herds are really suffering and that argument also covers in line muzzloaders and scopes.

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that argument also covers in line muzzloaders and scopes.

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For the record I'm against these as well. A typical black powder muzzleloader has an effective range of 50- maybe 75 yards....max.
An inline with scope is effective to @ 200 yds.

See the difference here....not "primitive" at all.

And before you start with the compound vs recurve bs, a recurve is good to about 35, maybe 40 yds realistically. The compound adds maybe 10-15 yds for 98% of archery hunters that use a compound.

And wounding an animal is always a chance. My point with wounding was that most people won't go buy a bow and hunt with it without a fair amount of practice before heading into the woods.
Billy Bob can buy a crossbow in the morning and go that afternoon, with no practice and try to "archery hunt".

Not my place to say who can and who can't do stuff, but if you don't see the difference here than my words are wasted on you and others that may think like you.

My dos centavos

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Billy Bob can buy a crossbow in the morning and go that afternoon, with no practice and try to "archery hunt".

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A crossbow doesn't take the same amount of practice time to be able to put a clean kill on a deer. It doesnt always matter if somebody has shot 100 bolts a day from their xbow. There are plenty of folks out there shooting bows without practicing.