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I ventured over to The Dark Side yesterday...

Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:04 pm
Took a float trip down one of the three prime smallmouth fisheries in the country yesterday...in a yak. Never had been in one before in my life, and I'm here to tell yall, they WILL flip real easily. But it was 95 degrees and the river felt wonderful. You sure can't stand up to pee or lean over too far. I enjoyed this yak thing a lot, too. Now Mama BFIV and I are very interested in getting our own yaks that we can use to smallmouth fish out of while floating down the river. Do yall yak folks have any links for help and advice on how to get started doing this? We are both senior citizens and safety and relative comfort are certainly concerns of ours.
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
764 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:13 pm to
KC kayaks are super stable and easy to fish out of. I stand in mine and have never really came close to flipping. I guess it depends on where and what type of fishing you are doing. For just floating creeks and rivers I think a KC would be perfect. If you are covering a lot of area you might want to look at a pedal kayak.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:32 pm to
One of the big things that concern both of us is losing our gear when we flip that thing. And one or both of us WILL flip it eventually, probably more than once.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:34 pm to
What kind of kayaks were yall using?

If you are going to primarily float rivers and have a fairly large budget, look into the Jackson Coosa / Coosa HD.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:43 pm to
We were just using their rental yaks. Probably 10 feet long? Wasn't very comfortable at all. Had to use the life jacket for a cushion against the "seat". I wouldn't think of buying a yak like the one we rented. It was still a blast, though. It was very narrow, maybe 24 inches? I know I hadn't gone 100 yards before it flipped my arse into the river. But that was my fault. Never had been in one before. Leaned over a little too far and couldn't recover!

This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:45 pm to
What are you thinking total package budget for 2 setups?

Ive got a 12 pack and all night, hit me
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6757 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:48 pm to
There is lots of good used kayaks on LA sportsman. I just bought a slayer propel 10, but they are high dollar and I fish mainly salt water. Propel might not be good for shallow rivers and what not.

I'd recommend going do a demo. Pack n paddle in Lafayette does a demo every week or two. And I think either Massey's or back packer does a demo every week at the LSU Lakes. Go to the demo and tell the guys what you are looking for and try out all of them. Then go find a used one on LA sportsman.

Idk what kinda yak you were in, but you shouldn't be easily flipping over. I've never felt like I was about to flip over and I stand up to pee all the time.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:49 pm to
We're so new at this, we really don't know what we need. Just want something that's safe, lightweight enough to load it up and unload it, and is stable. Have lots of questions, though. I can't fish with a 7 foot double bladed paddle layin across my lap. Don't want to lose my gear when I flip it, place to store the rods, etc. Does any of that make sense?
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Pack n paddle in Lafayette does a demo every week or two

Wish we could take advantage of that. Only problem is...we live in Virginia!
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:52 pm to
Here is the website of the float business and some pics of the yaks we used. The smallmouth fishing is above this portion of the river. LINK
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6757 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Wish we could take advantage of that. Only problem is...we live in Virginia!


Oh OK. Well call around any local stores and see if any of them do demos. I highly recommend a demo before purchase. I thought I was set on which one I wanted until I demoed and change my mind. Do you have a backpacker or masseys over there?
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6757 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

I can't fish with a 7 foot double bladed paddle layin across my lap. Don't want to lose my gear when I flip it, place to store the rods, etc. Does any of that make sense?


Lots of accessories are made for yaks. You can buy paddle holders, rod holders, etc. Most yaks come with at least 1 or 2 rod holders.

And you should not be flipping a yak on a common occurrence. I don't ever plan on flipping mine.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
764 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:56 pm to
Most cheap rental kayaks are totally different from high end fishing kayaks. The high end fishing kayaks are very stable and comfortable to fish out of. My first yak was an ascend and while it was easy to paddle its night and day fishing out of that compared to my KC. I'm sure others will tell you the same. Hobie, Jackson and some of the other higher end fishing kayaks will be a totally different experience for you. If you are in BR I would recommend going to one of the kayak demo days the back packer puts on and try a few different kayaks to see what feels good to you.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7369 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:57 pm to
Probably any of the major brands high end yaks will fit the bill. It's easy to look at them and get an idea of what their strong points are.

And just like anything else, the more you do it, the better you'll be at it. I've never flipped one unless I was in breakers or had way too much to drink in s small yak. You should be fine in most yaks after a little practice.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Do you have a backpacker or masseys over there?
Nope, but we have Academy, Bass Pro, Cabela's, and some specialty kayak shops.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:04 pm to
Didn't know the dealers had demo days. That would help us a lot in figuring out what we need.

Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6757 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

some specialty kayak shops


Call them, I bet they do demos. Big box stores don't usually demo, at least down here anyway. Tell them what you're looking for and they will hook you up.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:08 pm to
Closest yak specialty shop to me is in Bristol, Virginia. I'll have to check them out. Thanks for that tip about demo days! Right now, I'm so sore that I sure hope I don't hafta reach up overhead and change a light bulb for a day or two...
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 8:43 am to
Check out Nucanoe. Wide like a canoe but shaped like a kayak. You can stand up in them.

I have one and have been very pleased.
Posted by JayMc
Member since Nov 2007
40 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:30 am to
Re: the Nucanoe...

Which model do you have? I'm interested in the Frontier as I could use it with my son or fishing alone. Any thoughts on fishing as a pair out of one?
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