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How many parts can you replace on a gun before it is a different gun?

Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:16 pm
I just rebuilt a very old specimen that needed extensive parts replacements. Probably 50% of the original gun was replaced but the receiver, stock, trigger group and some internal parts are still there. ‘New’ barrel, magazine, forearm, bolt, springs, etc. I say ‘new’ because the gun in question is 107 years old.

This could apply to any model like ARs, etc. Is the gun the receiver or frame, or the entire thing? When has so much been replaced that you are dealing with something different?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16725 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:25 pm to
Just the receiver with the serial number is the gun, you can replace everything else.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23513 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:34 pm to
I was going to say as long as the receiver is there, it's technically the same gun...

There are a couple rifles (Argentine 1891, some Mosin Nagants, some Winchester 94's) that technically are pre 1899, and thus don't legally require an FFL to sell and ship. I got an Argentine shipped straight to the house like that.
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This could apply to any model like ARs, etc. Is the gun the receiver or frame, or the entire thing?
AR's (and other recievers like shotgun etc), my understanding is, once a rifle, always a rifle (or shotgun). If you put a stock on it, it's now a rifle, and you can't legally swap to a shorter barrel and a brace or Shockwave grip.

The pistols and shockwaves technically never were long guns, so that doesn't apply... but don't put a stock on them or it will.

Now, functionally, you can change the stock, float the barrel, tap and mount a scope, and transform an old gun into something completely different in experience. But I think, if that was a sporterized 1891 that originally was pre-1899 for example, then it's still considered exempt from FFL.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3956 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:00 pm to
Ship of Theseus paradox
Posted by LuapGibb
Walker, LA
Member since Jul 2009
561 posts
Posted on 6/23/19 at 11:26 pm to
So what kind of firearm was the 107 year old specimen? Just curious because I like to hear about old guns.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:10 am to
A Remington Model 11 in 12 gauge.
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