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re: How and why do we still have doe days
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:02 pm to Danm312
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:02 pm to Danm312
I'm in NE la. We shoot does year round. Probably get about 100 a year myself. Between my kids all my employees and most of my friends we kill over 500 a year. Deer are twice the nuisance hogs were. Doe day needs to be 365 days a year. Way too many deer
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 11:15 pm to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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I'm in NE la. We shoot does year round. Probably get about 100 a year myself. Between my kids all my employees and most of my friends we kill over 500 a year. Deer are twice the nuisance hogs were. Doe day needs to be 365 days a year. Way too many deer
How big of a place you got? I see 20 to 30 deer a hunt on my good stands and 10 to 15 on my slower stands. We have a small place and only take 1 to 3 bucks a year and 3 to 5 doe. Pretty close to a 1 to 1 ratio and if it starts to lean more doe heavy we may kill 8 to 10.
My buddies son killed 1 buck last year and I think they shot 2 or 3 doe. I didn’t kill a single deer last year and I don’t think my brother did either.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 11:52 pm to AlxTgr
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Yeah, cuz if you kill them before.. oh wait
I hunt public land, so my only involvement with management is letting young bucks walk, and I rarely shoot does… I could be totally wrong about this, but wouldn’t it make sense to shoot them before the rut? My logic is: if you have, say 10 does on your property, and you shoot 5 before the rut, you leave 5 to be bred and live to reproduce. But if you wait until after the rut, and say 7 of the 10 got bred, and then you shoot 5, you could potentially only leave 2 to reproduce. Also, that would be 5 less does competing with your bucks for food throughout the majority of winter. With the increasing hog population, that seems important too.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:48 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
Sounds like my kinda place, I’ll bring the beer and cracklins! Also a shitload of bullets!
Posted on 7/24/25 at 11:42 am to Danm312
I live in Karnes county in south Texas. I see anywhere from 10-15 does a hunt. I don't have enough property to qualify for DMAP and get doe tags. I only have 4 days a year during rifle season where I am allowed to shoot a doe. Doe days make zero sense, especially if you are hunting places where your license comes with tags.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 11:47 am to A_bear
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I could be totally wrong about this, but wouldn’t it make sense to shoot them before the rut? My logic is: if you have, say 10 does on your property, and you shoot 5 before the rut, you leave 5 to be bred and live to reproduce. But if you wait until after the rut, and say 7 of the 10 got bred, and then you shoot 5, you could potentially only leave 2 to reproduce.
i understand your train of thought here, but it really doesn't matter when you shoot a doe, once its shot it will obviously not reproduce that year whether it's before or after the rut. The best course of action is to have a somewhat close approximation of your deer herd. With trail cameras and what not that seems to be an easier thing to do, and then settle on a number of does that makes sense and don't over shoot them.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:15 pm to Ol boy
quote:read that 3 times slowly with your brain engaged. Come on man
If you kill them after they are pregnant instead of before then they will not be able to have the fawns they are pregnant with
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:45 pm to Danm312
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Our problem is we barely experience a rut anymore because our ratio is that off.
the ratio isnt off, the weather is, the season needs to be shifted back a month, at bare minimum 20 days.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:28 am to Danm312
I Emailed the Deer Program Manager for LDWF Last year about this very topic. This was his response:
Thank you for the comments and interest. Deer Area 9 is one of two deer areas with a conservative antlerless framework due to numerous habitat and deer productivity concerns. At a time in which statewide reported harvest has set an all-time high (since tagging began in 2008), deer area 9 harvest continues to decline. In this case, Deer Area 9 buck harvest has declined by 31% over the past ten years at a time in which hunters in the rest of the state are reporting increases in buck harvest. The percentage of bucks reported during that same span is 69% in Deer Area 9 compared to 62% prior to the implementation of limited either-sex days. It would be difficult to justify a liberalization for the area at a time in which overall and buck harvest is declining. Coastal habitat loss, limitations in the hardwood pulpwood market, subsidence in swamp hardwood habitats, invasive plant species and the expansion of feral hogs have all likely contributed to the decline.
He then went on to promote the DMAP program in order to be able to shoot antlerless deer any day and to provide data to LDWF.
If you want answers straight from the Top, ask him.
Johnathan Bordelon
LA Dept. of Wildlife and Fisheries
Deer Program Manager
765 Maryhill Rd.
Pineville, LA 71360
(318) 487-5334
jbordelon@wlf.la.gov
Thank you for the comments and interest. Deer Area 9 is one of two deer areas with a conservative antlerless framework due to numerous habitat and deer productivity concerns. At a time in which statewide reported harvest has set an all-time high (since tagging began in 2008), deer area 9 harvest continues to decline. In this case, Deer Area 9 buck harvest has declined by 31% over the past ten years at a time in which hunters in the rest of the state are reporting increases in buck harvest. The percentage of bucks reported during that same span is 69% in Deer Area 9 compared to 62% prior to the implementation of limited either-sex days. It would be difficult to justify a liberalization for the area at a time in which overall and buck harvest is declining. Coastal habitat loss, limitations in the hardwood pulpwood market, subsidence in swamp hardwood habitats, invasive plant species and the expansion of feral hogs have all likely contributed to the decline.
He then went on to promote the DMAP program in order to be able to shoot antlerless deer any day and to provide data to LDWF.
If you want answers straight from the Top, ask him.
Johnathan Bordelon
LA Dept. of Wildlife and Fisheries
Deer Program Manager
765 Maryhill Rd.
Pineville, LA 71360
(318) 487-5334
jbordelon@wlf.la.gov
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:21 am to Danm312
Not a LA resident.
But growing up someone would always say the insurance lobby keeps pushing for more.
Is that folklore here as well?
But growing up someone would always say the insurance lobby keeps pushing for more.
Is that folklore here as well?
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