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re: Help choosing a rilfe

Posted on 10/23/11 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by 185LSU
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Posted on 10/23/11 at 9:54 pm to
Yeah, I have been pretty lucky to see some parts that not a lot of people get to see and they were great experiences. My family is not a very "touristy" family, but I have gotten to do a glacier cruise and some of that stuff. There are plenty more things on the list. A family friend does the inland passage on his boat every year during the summer and if I ever get the time, that is one trip that I am looking to cross off the list.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/23/11 at 9:59 pm to
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Roger... how popular are guns like the Marlin .444 up there? Or .45/70? A lot of guys use those for elk in Colorado.




Not popular here in S.E. Ak, but they are up north in the interior. I am also considering a 45/70 as a "trail gun.".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/23/11 at 10:00 pm to
Yep, Juneau is on the "inside passage." Incredible country.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:52 am to
I figured those would be pretty popular around there. I love those little guns.

ETA: Well maybe little isn't the best way to describe a 45/70
This post was edited on 10/24/11 at 7:53 am
Posted by Hawgon
Texas
Member since Feb 2011
1223 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 11:29 am to
Just get a 30-06 and be done with it. The 30-06 is plenty for moose and caribou, and don't tell anyone, but plenty of big bears have died from one too back in the days before all game animals started growing hides that made them impervious to all bullets not shot from something with a "magnum" in the title.

But seriously, the 30-06 is perfect. I don't consider a .300 Win mag much of an improvement on the 30-06 because it is firing the same bullet a few hundred feet per second faster. There isn't much increase in killing power.

If you really want to increase your killing power, you'll need to move up to something like a .338 Win mag or a 9.3x62.

So, I would just go with a 30-06 and if you get to Alaska and think you might want to hunt big bears, go buy you a .338 or something.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7505 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 12:21 pm to
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Honestly... I think this would be best served by two rifles.


I agree w/ this. For LA whitetail, I'd go w/ one of the "usual suspects", i.e. 30-06, 308 Win, 270 Win, 7-08, 7X57, 6.5X55 and possibly 25-06.

When you get to Alaska, I'd look at 338 Win Mag. OTOH, your dad's hunting friends could best tell you what's most commonly used for the type of hunting you'd be doing in AK.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 12:30 pm to
Lots of guys here hunt deer with a 30-.06, but I can guarantee you there is someone in their party with a .338 or .375.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:47 pm to
Alaska Fish and Game's opinion...

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Bottom line is... you need to be able to expertly hit the vitals with the most weapon you are comfortable with.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:55 pm to
No doubt you can bring down a bear at 100 yds with a 30-.06. I don't think anyone is disputing it. Most folks like to reduce the risk however and hitting a charging bear or moose in the vitals isn't a given. Also, getting a good shot within 150 yds or so with little wind isn't either. If I wanted something adequate, I would carry a .30-.06 everwhere. It's not about adequate, it's about reducing risks.
This post was edited on 10/24/11 at 3:56 pm
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:09 pm to
I lean your way with regards to caliber... but they make an important point with regards to the rest.

If it was me... I'd probably go with a .338 or a 9.3x62... but before I went into the woods, I would want to be a damn sight better shot than I am now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 4:27 pm to
Yeah, I am not very confident in my aim when being charged. The last time I was charged by a moose I found the nearest tree. I definitely want something with some pop at close range, and is fairly flat at long range.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 9:09 pm to
I'm 100% against overkill unless what I'm trying to kill can kill me. Then I want LOTS of overkill. For bear hunting, I want to be shooting no less then a .375
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

I'm 100% against overkill unless what I'm trying to kill can kill me.


I hear you. We were discussing a universal round though to fit his hunting needs and like most people here, you have to carry some firepower if you want to be prepared. Lots of guys here hunt goats and sheep with .300 win mags.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 9:20 pm to
Yea I know. I was just sayin, .300 win mag wouldn't cut it for me with a bear, and would be overkill for deer. I'd have to get two rifles. Perfect excuse to convince the wife you need two IMO. Don't wanna blow the deer in half, need to blow the bear in half. Can't do it with one caliber.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 9:42 pm to
yeah, 300's not a bad goat round though. Lots of guys use 30-.06's here for deer but there is no need to have one up north where they don't have a lot of these little black tail deer.
This post was edited on 10/24/11 at 9:43 pm
Posted by avid lurker
houma
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 9:45 pm to
I shoot a 300 rum . It has power level ammunition so you can tone it down for whitetail and kick t up for Bigger game.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 10:02 pm to
That seems like it would be a good solution assuming you are good at sighting in rifles and don't mix your ammunition up.
Posted by lsuchase
Member since Oct 2011
46 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 11:02 pm to
hell just get a .50 BMG and be done with it




but srsly, If i were in your shoes I would go with a .338 win mag for now
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:25 am to
I used to shoot a 30-06 and now shoot a .300 WSM. I can assure you the .300 WSM is light years ahead of the 06 in knockdown power, especially at distances over 200 yards. I've killed 8 deer and 4 pigs since getting the .300 WSM and every one fell in its tracks.

As far as brands of rifles, I don't think you can get a better gun for the money than the Tikka T3. Everyone that I have ever shot drives tacks with factory ammo.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28096 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:57 am to
I'd consider the 7mm Rem Mag. It can be used for whitetails in south LA. Use the 150 grain soft points and it won't wreak too much havoc on them. A lot of people will say it is overkill, but you can easily hit the deer behind the shoulder and not mess up any meat, while still delivering a deadly shot.

It can also be used up to elk and caribou with the 175 grain, higher end ammo. And it has better ballistics than the 30-06 and 308.

You would probably have to resight your gun between trips though.

I have a Browning X Bolt and love it. If you're looking to spend less the Browning A Bolts are a little cheaper and Remington makes some models for around $500. Should be able to find plenty at pawn shops too.
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