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re: Has anyone know about the process to get dog hunting banned in a NF?

Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:06 pm to
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I have never experienced anyone using a rifle while dog hunting. Not only it is extremely dangerous, but it is not a good type of firearm to use on a running deer if you want to score a hit. What type of rifle was the person using?


Ol' 742 in .30-06 was king of the dog woods. .280 rem made a showing in the mid '80's, too. You wouldn't want a scatter gun when old mossy head breaks across a cotton field a 300yds, baw.
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:20 pm to
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Ol' 742 in .30-06 was king of the dog woods.


Lol I have one that was my dads. He used it for dog hunting just northeast of sherburne in the 80s.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:22 pm to
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Lol I have one that was my dads. He used it for dog hunting just northeast of sherburne in the 80s.
Man it wasn't uncommon to hear 20-30 shots from the baws next door when a deer crossed a field. They'd post up on the highway at designated intervals.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:33 pm to
Most hunters here used 742’s in 30-06 or .308,few carried shotguns.Buckshot mostly only good for wounding deer.One day guy in our club shot at nice buck running on a ridge.At the shot,the buck cut a flip.He hustled over there,all he found was a 4pt. antler,deer was gone.He shot it off right above the burr:
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:41 pm to
My pops used to walk down the railroad tracks to where the bridge crossed the levee and he would get in one if those little service baskets. He could shoot down the levee when the dogs crossed
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:42 pm to
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Buckshot mostly only good for wounding deer


Sorry, but I am calling bullshite on you for that one

Source: Years of seeing deer killed with buckshot, including several by me. And many, many by my father.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:45 pm to
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Ol' 742 in .30-06 was king of the dog woods. .280 rem made a showing in the mid '80's, too. You wouldn't want a scatter gun when old mossy head breaks across a cotton field a 300yds, baw.


All of this sounds like a different planet than what everyone was doing in South Carolina.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:57 pm to
Taxidermist I used had a jar full of squirrel shot and buck shot he found skinning deer over the years.He showed me buckshot he found under the skin of 9pt. I took him.
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:01 pm to
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You should experience it with big dogs like redbones, black and tans, or walkers at least once. The hounds are on a different level than beagles (like NFL vs college)


We used to run big dogs mostly Walkers until our lease got smaller. Now we only run beagles. My son has never experienced “big dogs”. I’d like to find a place to bring him in the future to see what a pack of Walkers can do.

Usually the beagles a WAY behind the deer, but I’ve told him with the Walkers, if you hear them coming you better put your gun to your shoulder! Those were good times when we had thousands of acres to run.
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 6:04 pm to
When I hunted with the old men in the early 90’s, plenty of them used 30-06 742’s. Most had the scope mounts they could flip over and shoot open sights if the deer got out into a cutover.
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:35 pm to
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I have never experienced anyone using a rifle while dog hunting.

Not only it is extremely dangerous, but it is not a good type of firearm to use on a running deer if you want to score a hit.

What type of rifle was the person using?


The one time I went I brought a 30-30. Once I got there they told me it was 3 point on one side or better rule, or you could shoot a doe. I was worried I’d frick up and shoot one not allowed so I went into the hunt and was pretty determined I’m not gonna be pulling the trigger unless it was an obvious wall hanger and I had time to eye it good before shooting. We did have one big buck run through but nobody ever got a shot at it.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:45 pm to
Anybody bringing a rifle to our club or any around would have been told they weren’t hunting.

We put standers out in a line about 100 yds apart from each other and then drove the dogs towards them. Everyone had shotguns with buckshot. A rifle would have been an excellent way to kill a person or a dog.

Y’all are describing something different.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:48 pm to
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Usually the beagles WAY behind the deer
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Have you ever seen Patch beagles run?It is a strain of beagles developed in the Adirondack mountains to run snowshoe hares.I think they could give a Walker a run for his money,they don’t have the stamina of a Walker to run all day and night but they are fast.I had a couple but I didn’t like them for rabbits,too fast.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:52 pm to
Pretty clear you haven't experianced NF dog hunting.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:55 pm to
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Have you ever seen Patch beagles run?


I have not, but our deer beagles are bigger than the breed standard. Ours are 17” or taller and probably have Walker in their blood. We get all ours from Arkansas, but they’re still not Walkers.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:57 pm to
Anybody bringing a rifle to our club or any around would have been told they weren’t hunting. We put standers out in a line about 100 yds apart from each other and then drove the dogs towards them. Everyone had shotguns with buckshot. A rifle would have been an excellent way to kill a person or a dog. Y’all are describing something different.

You must be in thick woods or some crazy terrain. In north Louisiana (not in swamps) dog hunters will be standing in an open area like a road or pipeline waiting for the deer to cross. A shotgun would be worthless. In the swamp, a shotgun may be better because the vegetation is thick and the deer will be closer
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:33 pm to
It varied. Mainly swamps but we hunted some roads, pipelines, and wood edges. Standers were still about 100yds apart with shotguns and buckshot.

Anyone here showing up with a rifle would have got his arse laughed out of camp.





Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Pretty clear you haven't experianced NF dog hunting.



Didn’t claim to.

Not all dog hunters are slobs.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 8:39 pm
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 8:40 pm to
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All of this sounds like a different planet than what everyone was doing in South Carolina.
I’ve heard stories from my dad and his buddies of deer coming out in the open between people, the more aggressive person would shoot, the non shooter talking about bullets cracking by him and hitting trees and shite. Some dumb mofos which is why my old man didnt let me go often. CB ch 5.

We did have some property in the area they all hunted though so I got a taste of walker hounds. My grand father enjoyed dogs, too. The only time he’d go hunting is when he heard the dogs coming and he’d doodle back to the woods in his truck.

My old man enjoyed the dogs more than fricking with a deer back then. Now he is a killer still hunter, loves it.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:46 am to
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Maybe it's to keep their dogs from being run over?


So it’s ok to inconvenience everyone for their dogs?

I have to show up late to my spot bc of some dog hunter and his/their dogs?
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